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Post by DarkmSparks »

JCharante wrote: post #182
GoblinSlayer wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

BBC fights censorship in China, you would do the same by running a tor node.

I wonder what other places the BBC is blocked in. I know there's a DNS block in Viet Nam.

Unfortunately not everywhere. Dishonest war mongering scum entirely infested by project mockingbird. Not to mention the undying support for the family the US literally went to war with to escape the grasp of and celebrates winning every single year. (aka independence day)

A few oddball stories about Muslims artists inspired by the female body (I kid you not) https://www.bbc.com/news/av/stories-50101358/art-starts-conv...

Does not make up for the blood on their hands.

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Post by ultraism »

bouncycastle wrote: post #45
farummi wrote: post #16

BBC World News has a similar purpose as Voice of America (VOA) and Russia Today (RT). The purpose is to deliver the viewpoint of the UK to other countries, such as Iran, Russia, China.

No, you're thinking of Fox News & Daily Mail. Sure, there is some criticism of BBC news, but I don't think you could ever compare it to the junk filled propaganda machine that is RT.

RT covers factual news. They just choose to cover news that makes America, et al look bad and choose to not cover news that makes Russia look bad. Opinion pieces are of course opinions, not news, and are also usually pro-Russian policy opinions.

Re: BBC News launches 'dark web' Tor mirror

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Post by throwaway8491 »

Some of BBC News' .onion neighbors are forced to constantly rotate their URLs to evade DDoS attacks (notably Empire Market). Admins constantly publish new PGP-signed links to https://dark.fail . DDoS attackers then scrape this site, shift their attacks. Sites stay online, but users are trained to expect URLs to constantly change. This has resulted in a huge spike in phishing attacks.

Tor hidden services are notoriously difficult to protect from DDoS attacks due to its code being mostly single-threaded. Build 5000 circuits to any darknet site, max out one core on the server, and you take it offline. Cheers to BBC for this great step forward for privacy. Hopefully their traffic surges to bring more attention to .onion scaling problems.

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Post by statusquoantefa »

To be clear, they're talking about the un-intellectual dark web: they aren't yet willing to take the risk featuring in-band IDW viewpoints on their pages or airwaves.

Probably, in the face of trends like Brexit and a sense of their declining popularity, this is phase one of preparing to take their resistance underground if they have to.

Re: BBC News launches 'dark web' Tor mirror

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Post by throwaway8491 »

class4behavior wrote: post #51

Since no one posted that, yet: Tor relies on the size the of its network to counteract blocks, prevent take overs, and naturally ensure stability as well as performance. You can either donate to various groups running Tor servers, the developers, or take part on your own. https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Tor https://www.torservers.net/ https://www.dfri.se/donera/ https://nos-oignons.net/ https://donate.torproject.org…

You could also find a relay family, email their contact information, and offer to donate on Tor's Metrics page:

https://metrics.torproject.org/rs.html#toprelays

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Post by xvector »

steeleduncan wrote: post #185

Potentially I am misunderstanding how Tor's onion routing works, but according to https://metrics.torproject.org/networksize.html there are about 6000 tor relays right now. Surely if some well funded organisation (Eve) were to install a similar number of relays itself, then it is reasonably likely that for a given user a packet would eventually travel across relays solely owned by Eve, and at that point Eve could map…

I believe this would work, and is one of the weak points of the ecosystem. I wonder what the impact of spinning up 6K relays in AWS across the globe would be like. I would say that spinning up 6K instances would be affordable for even small companies.

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Post by olivermarks »

farummi wrote: post #16

BBC World News has a similar purpose as Voice of America (VOA) and Russia Today (RT). The purpose is to deliver the viewpoint of the UK to other countries, such as Iran, Russia, China.

Interesting this was down voted. Presumably HN readers don't think this is accurate? From what I know of the BBC I would say this is a fair comment and that TOR might be needed for people who want to get the UK gov viewpoint in places hostile to their policies, views and positions

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Post by cnThrowaway »

LinuxBender wrote: post #147
breadandcrumbel wrote: post #74

As far as I know, TOR doesn't work well in China

Correct. Every time a new version / protocol is released, it works for a little while and then they adapt their firewall to block it.

Here is my idea to fight The Great Firewall: Embed banned content in "normal" https websites like this one.

The content can either be static like mirrors of banned sites (wikipedia, BBC and the tor website). It would be at secret locations.

The site should randomly pick a few of it's Chinese users. When they visit public pages, they will be redirected to the secret locations. (With a welcome message).

It will appeal to apolitical Chinese, because they will feel they are unraveling secrets.

It will be hard for the Chinese government to clamp down: They will struggle to identify these websites and when they shut them down, they will hurt their own industries.

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Post by blotter_paper »

zaphod420 wrote: post #89

Ethereum has contract call ENS (Ethereum Name Service). It's kind of like a decentralized DNS. People are starting to use that to create .eth domain names that point to .onion sites. https://medium.com/the-ethereum-name-service/list-of-ens-nam...

I think DNS is one of the top two most appropriate uses for blockchains. Besides the auctions and the TLD, what are the tradeoffs you're aware of between ENS and Namecoin? There's a part of me that feels like having One True Blockchain for everything sounds cool, but I also think Ethereum might be overkill for what is essentially a key-value store. Is there a formal ENS whitepaper with all the relevant high-level details in one document that my google-fu is failing to find, or are these web docs and the github code the best starting point right now? https://docs.ens.domains/

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Post by swirepe »

class4behavior wrote: post #51

Since no one posted that, yet: Tor relies on the size the of its network to counteract blocks, prevent take overs, and naturally ensure stability as well as performance. You can either donate to various groups running Tor servers, the developers, or take part on your own. https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Tor https://www.torservers.net/ https://www.dfri.se/donera/ https://nos-oignons.net/ https://donate.torproject.org…

It can be as easy as

    sudo snap install tor-middle-relay
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