The Uncertain Fate of Amsterdam’s Red-Light District

Post by GrumpyNl » Thu, Oct 24, 2019, 4:15 PM UTC

moccachino wrote: post #9

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> Not once I heard of a local Dutch girl doing this. How is this relevant? I mean in what manner would nationality change your opinion on this topic?

I read them to mean that the fact that no Dutch girl is doing it is indicative of exploitation. Dutch people generally have lots of opportunities that many other nationalities don't. It's impossible to look at someone and tell with certainty that they are being exploited, but it's easy to look at a group of people and notice if any of them are from the local privileged peoples, and if most of them are from poorer reg…

Post by jandrese » Thu, Oct 24, 2019, 4:18 PM UTC

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> Maybe if it was far from the center and if it was done in a way where you would be 100% sure where nobody was exploited, then yes All kinds of low and high paying jobs are exploitative and hardly anybody cares. But as soon as some degree of sex is involved, everyone is suddenly peculiarly interested exploitation. Why is sex treated so differently?

Probably a few reasons, it often involves very vulnerable people, people who were coerced, people who were tricked (we have student jobs for you, hand over your passport though), etc. People are similarly uncomfortable with migrant manual laborers in the ME who are also coerced and tricked, though many do it knowingly because the alternative is worse. Initially trafficked sex workers tend younger than initially inden…

Post by Synaesthesia » Thu, Oct 24, 2019, 4:20 PM UTC

Post by holoduke » Thu, Oct 24, 2019, 4:23 PM UTC

moccachino wrote: post #9

close04 wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Not once I heard of a local Dutch girl doing this. How is this relevant? I mean in what manner would nationality change your opinion on this topic?

I read them to mean that the fact that no Dutch girl is doing it is indicative of exploitation. Dutch people generally have lots of opportunities that many other nationalities don't. It's impossible to look at someone and tell with certainty that they are being exploited, but it's easy to look at a group of people and notice if any of them are from the local privileged peoples, and if most of them are from poorer reg…

Post by targonca » Thu, Oct 24, 2019, 4:25 PM UTC

misja111 wrote: post #25

sktrdie wrote: post #2

I have been living in Amsterdam for about half a year. Met lots of locals. The red light district is not liked. It’s full of trashy people wanting to do drugs and have sex. Sure if you find those to be pleasures of life then be my guest, but the locals hate it: imagine having an entire neighborhood ruined by these kind of people, who let me tell you are not the most respectful kind. But the real issue is that none of…

I have been living in Amsterdam for the last 25 years, here is a bit of background. 25 years ago the red light district was a no go area for except for people looking for sex or drugs. But in the recent decades that has slowly changed. At some point it became fashionable to live in the old city centre and in the red light district housing was cheap. As soon as those 'normal' people were living there they started to c…