The Uncertain Fate of Amsterdam’s Red-Light District
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The Uncertain Fate of Amsterdam’s Red-Light District
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Re: The Uncertain Fate of Amsterdam’s Red-Light District
#2I have been living in Amsterdam for about half a year. Met lots of locals. The red light district is not liked. It’s full of trashy people wanting to do drugs and have sex. Sure if you find those to be pleasures of life then be my guest, but the locals hate it: imagine having an entire neighborhood ruined by these kind of people, who let me tell you are not the most respectful kind.
But the real issue is that none of the girl prostitutes are locals. Not once I heard of a local Dutch girl doing this. And it’s also mostly lots of people that need he money. If the brothels were full of dutch-rich women then I’d be fine with it... but reality is that it’s not and it encourages poorer people to participate in the activity. And in a way it exploits these people even if it’s their choice.
Also let’s not forget the immortal rule: wherever there’s money, there’s corruption.
So unfortunately I don’t favor the red light district. Maybe if it was far from the center and if it was done in a way where you would be 100% sure where nobody was exploited, then yes. But reality is that nobody can know for sure that exploitation doesn’t happen.
But then there’s also the other side of the coin that if you make it illegal it will anyway happen in a worst manner... on the streets and with more exploitation.
So maybe having something organized and outside cultural city center seems like a good win-win situation.
Re: The Uncertain Fate of Amsterdam’s Red-Light District
#3I have been living in Amsterdam for about half a year. Met lots of locals. The red light district is not liked. It’s full of trashy people wanting to do drugs and have sex. Sure if you find those to be pleasures of life then be my guest, but the locals hate it: imagine having an entire neighborhood ruined by these kind of people, who let me tell you are not the most respectful kind. But the real issue is that none of…
> imagine having an entire neighborhood ruined by these kind of people
So, just like multiple neighborhoods in any big urban city? Except that it's at least somewhat regulated/under legal protection?
Re: The Uncertain Fate of Amsterdam’s Red-Light District
#4I have been living in Amsterdam for about half a year. Met lots of locals. The red light district is not liked. It’s full of trashy people wanting to do drugs and have sex. Sure if you find those to be pleasures of life then be my guest, but the locals hate it: imagine having an entire neighborhood ruined by these kind of people, who let me tell you are not the most respectful kind. But the real issue is that none of…
so... it is okay as long as people can't see it?
> wherever there’s money, there’s corruption
... I guess I should stop working in IT
Re: The Uncertain Fate of Amsterdam’s Red-Light District
#5I have been living in Amsterdam for about half a year. Met lots of locals. The red light district is not liked. It’s full of trashy people wanting to do drugs and have sex. Sure if you find those to be pleasures of life then be my guest, but the locals hate it: imagine having an entire neighborhood ruined by these kind of people, who let me tell you are not the most respectful kind. But the real issue is that none of…
> Not once I heard of a local Dutch girl doing this.
How is this relevant? I mean in what manner would nationality change your opinion on this topic?
Re: The Uncertain Fate of Amsterdam’s Red-Light District
#6I have been living in Amsterdam for about half a year. Met lots of locals. The red light district is not liked. It’s full of trashy people wanting to do drugs and have sex. Sure if you find those to be pleasures of life then be my guest, but the locals hate it: imagine having an entire neighborhood ruined by these kind of people, who let me tell you are not the most respectful kind. But the real issue is that none of…
All true. There are other realities worth considering too - one being that if sex workers are driven from Amsterdam, that they'll simply go elsewhere. Ostend and Bremerhaven are both served by ferries from the UK. What might the financial impact of the NIMBYism be on the Netherlands?
Re: The Uncertain Fate of Amsterdam’s Red-Light District
#7I have been living in Amsterdam for about half a year. Met lots of locals. The red light district is not liked. It’s full of trashy people wanting to do drugs and have sex. Sure if you find those to be pleasures of life then be my guest, but the locals hate it: imagine having an entire neighborhood ruined by these kind of people, who let me tell you are not the most respectful kind. But the real issue is that none of…
> Not once I heard of a local Dutch girl doing this. How is this relevant? I mean in what manner would nationality change your opinion on this topic?
Places with legal sex work have higher rates of human trafficking
> Criminalization of prostitution in Sweden resulted in the shrinking of the prostitution market and the decline of human trafficking inflows. Cross-country comparisons of Sweden with Denmark (where prostitution is decriminalized) and Germany (expanded legalization of prostitution) are consistent with the quantitative analysis, showing that trafficking inflows decreased with criminalization and increased with legalization.
https://orgs.law.harvard.edu/lids/2014/06/12/does-legalized-...
Re: The Uncertain Fate of Amsterdam’s Red-Light District
#8I have been living in Amsterdam for about half a year. Met lots of locals. The red light district is not liked. It’s full of trashy people wanting to do drugs and have sex. Sure if you find those to be pleasures of life then be my guest, but the locals hate it: imagine having an entire neighborhood ruined by these kind of people, who let me tell you are not the most respectful kind. But the real issue is that none of…
Take a walk around Oude kerk on sunday morning and there will be plenty of dutch to be heard. Those ladies are also no teenagers
Re: The Uncertain Fate of Amsterdam’s Red-Light District
#9I have been living in Amsterdam for about half a year. Met lots of locals. The red light district is not liked. It’s full of trashy people wanting to do drugs and have sex. Sure if you find those to be pleasures of life then be my guest, but the locals hate it: imagine having an entire neighborhood ruined by these kind of people, who let me tell you are not the most respectful kind. But the real issue is that none of…
> Not once I heard of a local Dutch girl doing this. How is this relevant? I mean in what manner would nationality change your opinion on this topic?
I read them to mean that the fact that no Dutch girl is doing it is indicative of exploitation.
Dutch people generally have lots of opportunities that many other nationalities don't.
It's impossible to look at someone and tell with certainty that they are being exploited, but it's easy to look at a group of people and notice if any of them are from the local privileged peoples, and if most of them are from poorer regions.
Re: The Uncertain Fate of Amsterdam’s Red-Light District
#10I have been living in Amsterdam for about half a year. Met lots of locals. The red light district is not liked. It’s full of trashy people wanting to do drugs and have sex. Sure if you find those to be pleasures of life then be my guest, but the locals hate it: imagine having an entire neighborhood ruined by these kind of people, who let me tell you are not the most respectful kind. But the real issue is that none of…
> Not once I heard of a local Dutch girl doing this. How is this relevant? I mean in what manner would nationality change your opinion on this topic?
The implications of human trafficking - it seems more likely that the industry is partaking in human trafficking if they need to source the women from out of state, since they can't find enough local women willing to engage in it.