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Congressman's phone password is 111111

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Re: Congressman's phone password is 111111

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Post by Cerium »

laurencei wrote: post #24
duxup wrote: post #10

I tell this story a lot. But I think in the time of smartphones and such it also represents the only real secure site I thought was truly secure from what I knew of it. This was before smartphones were common, but I think it was ahead of its time in that way. I worked for a company that occasionally would service some of our hardware onsite. One customer was a company that did a lot of work for the military and they…

If you knew the location of "the site" (because you drove to it) - what benefit was the blindfold for the site?

Not op, but if there are multiple buildings you won't be able to leak which one is working on what.

Re: Congressman's phone password is 111111

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Post by abstractbeliefs »

wayneftw wrote: post #25

I don't lock my phone at all. Never have. However, with the new iPhones that don't have a home button, I believe that Apple is forcing you to either use face unlock or a passcode. There is no choice to just leave it unlocked. So, as soon as my iPhone 6s stops working, I will have to choose to: 1) Give in and use my face to unlock. 2) Use a dumb passcode like 000000. 3) Upgrade to the newest iPhone that still has a ho…

Why is it that you choose not to?

I think it would be helpful to understand your use case and how you balance your personal tolerance for risk and consequences so we can better consider users like yourself.

Re: Congressman's phone password is 111111

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Post by duxup »

laurencei wrote: post #24
duxup wrote: post #10

I tell this story a lot. But I think in the time of smartphones and such it also represents the only real secure site I thought was truly secure from what I knew of it. This was before smartphones were common, but I think it was ahead of its time in that way. I worked for a company that occasionally would service some of our hardware onsite. One customer was a company that did a lot of work for the military and they…

If you knew the location of "the site" (because you drove to it) - what benefit was the blindfold for the site?

I'm guessing here because they don't tell you.

But at the gate you couldn't see much of anything. So you effectively never saw the outside of the site, and even parts of the inside of the building.

What you could see, where you could go, all of it seemed to be clearly planned ahead of time and it was just what was essential to complete the task.

Re: Congressman's phone password is 111111

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Post by fbnlsr »

ydnaclementine wrote: post #22

I always thought that Android's 3x3 dot pattern draw password thing was superior against these type of over the shoulder attack, as long as you turn off the tracing effect. Without tracing and if you do it quickly, it just looks like you’re dragging your thumb randomly all over the phone.

More importantly, Android's pattern draw allows the user to pass on an already traced line. That way you can't guess the pattern just by looking at the screen smudges.

Re: Congressman's phone password is 111111

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Post by [deleted] »

laurencei wrote: post #24
duxup wrote: post #10

I tell this story a lot. But I think in the time of smartphones and such it also represents the only real secure site I thought was truly secure from what I knew of it. This was before smartphones were common, but I think it was ahead of its time in that way. I worked for a company that occasionally would service some of our hardware onsite. One customer was a company that did a lot of work for the military and they…

If you knew the location of "the site" (because you drove to it) - what benefit was the blindfold for the site?

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Re: Congressman's phone password is 111111

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Post by ceejayoz »

securingsincity wrote: post #17

I'm not an iPhone user but I thought that Apple warned you about this kind of password. It was covered quite a bit when Kanye was caught with a 000000 password when meeting with Trump. https://www.cnet.com/news/kanye-west-meets-with-trump-reveal...

I don't think any PIN is gonna survive the "we've got video of you entering it" attack.

Re: Congressman's phone password is 111111

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Post by duxup »

komali2 wrote: post #27
duxup wrote: post #10

I tell this story a lot. But I think in the time of smartphones and such it also represents the only real secure site I thought was truly secure from what I knew of it. This was before smartphones were common, but I think it was ahead of its time in that way. I worked for a company that occasionally would service some of our hardware onsite. One customer was a company that did a lot of work for the military and they…

Where was this? What was the "site?" What country? And what kind of work were they outsourcing to outside the military?

US.

No comment on the rest / some of it I honestly don't know.

None of the organizations involved share a lot of data / answer questions / you don't ask, and everything is designed around you not knowing.

Re: Congressman's phone password is 111111

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Post by ceejayoz »

komali2 wrote: post #27
duxup wrote: post #10

I tell this story a lot. But I think in the time of smartphones and such it also represents the only real secure site I thought was truly secure from what I knew of it. This was before smartphones were common, but I think it was ahead of its time in that way. I worked for a company that occasionally would service some of our hardware onsite. One customer was a company that did a lot of work for the military and they…

Where was this? What was the "site?" What country? And what kind of work were they outsourcing to outside the military?

Given the intensity of the security described, I strongly suspect the answer to each of those questions is "I can't say".

We outsource pretty much anything to contractors, though.

Re: Congressman's phone password is 111111

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Post by nkrisc »

laurencei wrote: post #24
duxup wrote: post #10

I tell this story a lot. But I think in the time of smartphones and such it also represents the only real secure site I thought was truly secure from what I knew of it. This was before smartphones were common, but I think it was ahead of its time in that way. I worked for a company that occasionally would service some of our hardware onsite. One customer was a company that did a lot of work for the military and they…

If you knew the location of "the site" (because you drove to it) - what benefit was the blindfold for the site?

The location of the site is pretty pointless and impossible to obscure (everyone can find it in satellite imagery). However they can certainly obscure more specific details about the site: what building houses what, where access points are, physical security measures around those points, components used in entries, etc.
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