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Re: BBC News launches 'dark web' Tor mirror

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Post by black_puppydog » Thu, Oct 24, 2019, 1:14 PM UTC

rvz wrote: post #55

jonplackett wrote: post #2

Finally a good use for my license fee! (Aside from David Attenborough documentaries, they’ve always been worth it)

> Finally a good use for my license fee! While I agree that no news corporation should ever be censored and should be accessible to all including the "dark-web", the level of clickbait / fake-news level content on the BBC website is getting ridiculous in some areas and contradicts with their duty to be fair, impartial and balanced as the only UK state broadcaster privileged with a royal charter. Apart from the actual…

They seem to have made it their task to report in depth on every single violent crime in the country. Being from Germany and having never lived in the UK, this is weird to me. For a crime to end up on tagesschau.de (the German equivalent to bbc.co.uk/news ) it needs to be of... well... national interest. This just seems like yellow press, honestly. Or is there something I'm missing?

edit: also their "reporting" on anything climate related is amazing. It's no wonder that extinction rebellion, a movement originating in the UK, has as the first demand to "tell the truth". At first I was confused because climate change in my media consumption was a regularly occurring topic. But then I checked the bbc website. See [1] for a screenshot. This is at a time, mind you, when the whole of Europe was shattering temperature records left and right, and Greenland was melting. And they choose to report on a thumb wrestling tournament.

[1]: http://muchmuch.coffee:8989/blobs/get/&Jwu6gu4Ub33VBWbmz6YbT...

Re: BBC News launches 'dark web' Tor mirror

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Post by mschuster91 » Thu, Oct 24, 2019, 1:14 PM UTC

ArchieLeach wrote: post #48

Zenst wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/bbc/ http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/history/story/2007/02/0701...

The BBC is quite subtle. It's not fake news and what they report is factual, but the choice of what facts to report makes it crystal clear that they do have an agenda. A current example: Hongkong. They have headline reporting every time there is a protest while other protests in other countries, and arguably much more significant protests, barely get a mention. This is not a coincidence. Edit: A lot of the replies to…

> A current example: Hongkong. They have headline reporting every time there is a protest while other protests in other countries, and arguably much more significant protests, barely get a mention. This is not a coincidence.

Hong Kong is a former British colony with international importance, Chile is not.

Re: BBC News launches 'dark web' Tor mirror

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Post by pbhjpbhj » Thu, Oct 24, 2019, 1:15 PM UTC

andrewaylett wrote: post #37

I know there are good reasons why it's not fully secure, but I'd really like to be able to access `.onion` addresses in my regular browser over TOR and everything else directly as usual. In _this_ I'm not over-worried about the risk of deanonymisation as my aim is on one hand access to resources I don't have access to now and on the other hand legitimisation of TOR as something that anyone could reasonably use, even…

Brave browser integrates Tor browsing, might be worth trying for you.

Re: BBC News launches 'dark web' Tor mirror

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Post by ColanR » Thu, Oct 24, 2019, 1:15 PM UTC

snodnipper wrote: post #46

andrewaylett wrote: post #37

I know there are good reasons why it's not fully secure, but I'd really like to be able to access `.onion` addresses in my regular browser over TOR and everything else directly as usual. In _this_ I'm not over-worried about the risk of deanonymisation as my aim is on one hand access to resources I don't have access to now and on the other hand legitimisation of TOR as something that anyone could reasonably use, even…

you can download the brave.com browser for desktop, which supports Tor. After creating a Tor tab I could view https://www.bbcnewsv2vjtpsuy.onion/ without issue

That is fantastic. I might finally make the switch over from firefox.

Re: BBC News launches 'dark web' Tor mirror

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Post by joosters » Thu, Oct 24, 2019, 1:16 PM UTC

ArchieLeach wrote: post #48

Zenst wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/bbc/ http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/history/story/2007/02/0701...

The BBC is quite subtle. It's not fake news and what they report is factual, but the choice of what facts to report makes it crystal clear that they do have an agenda. A current example: Hongkong. They have headline reporting every time there is a protest while other protests in other countries, and arguably much more significant protests, barely get a mention. This is not a coincidence. Edit: A lot of the replies to…

Can you give a recent example of a significant protest that lacks a BBC news story?

Re: BBC News launches 'dark web' Tor mirror

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Post by mellosouls » Thu, Oct 24, 2019, 1:16 PM UTC

dev_north_east wrote: post #31

that_lurker wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This allows anyone that has access to TOR to read BBC. Many countries might block outside news organizations.

Yes I understand that. 1 - Can the same not be achieved via VPN usage? 2 - Can TOR browsers not already access the BBC in the "clearnet"? 3 - Why do I, as a UK resident, have to provide money so that someone in Vietnam can access our state news?

3 - You have been doing this as long as you have been paying the license fee for any international outreach, e.g. The World Service.

Re: BBC News launches 'dark web' Tor mirror

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Post by PUSH_AX » Thu, Oct 24, 2019, 1:17 PM UTC

andrewaylett wrote: post #37

I know there are good reasons why it's not fully secure, but I'd really like to be able to access `.onion` addresses in my regular browser over TOR and everything else directly as usual. In _this_ I'm not over-worried about the risk of deanonymisation as my aim is on one hand access to resources I don't have access to now and on the other hand legitimisation of TOR as something that anyone could reasonably use, even…

You can do this in Firefox. Open about:config and search "dotonion". Toggle it. The other arrangements are left up to you.

Re: BBC News launches 'dark web' Tor mirror

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Post by daurnimator » Thu, Oct 24, 2019, 1:17 PM UTC

andrewaylett wrote: post #37

I know there are good reasons why it's not fully secure, but I'd really like to be able to access `.onion` addresses in my regular browser over TOR and everything else directly as usual. In _this_ I'm not over-worried about the risk of deanonymisation as my aim is on one hand access to resources I don't have access to now and on the other hand legitimisation of TOR as something that anyone could reasonably use, even…

I set this up at one point. I should try and find the config again....

Re: BBC News launches 'dark web' Tor mirror

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Post by VBprogrammer » Thu, Oct 24, 2019, 1:18 PM UTC

rvz wrote: post #55

jonplackett wrote: post #2

Finally a good use for my license fee! (Aside from David Attenborough documentaries, they’ve always been worth it)

> Finally a good use for my license fee! While I agree that no news corporation should ever be censored and should be accessible to all including the "dark-web", the level of clickbait / fake-news level content on the BBC website is getting ridiculous in some areas and contradicts with their duty to be fair, impartial and balanced as the only UK state broadcaster privileged with a royal charter. Apart from the actual…

I think one of the issues the BBC suffers from is that in the attempt to be impartial they can sometimes give undue weight to crack-pot ideas.

That said, I often see both sides of a debate complaining about the bias of the BBC. So long as that is the case then we can reasonably assume they are doing a fair job of walking the fine line between both sides.

Re: BBC News launches 'dark web' Tor mirror

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Post by pbhjpbhj » Thu, Oct 24, 2019, 1:18 PM UTC

Phlogi wrote: post #54

elagost wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The way to do that is just to use Tor Browser as your regular browser.

No, because the Tor Browser sends all traffic through the tor network and exit nodes.

Why is that bad, per se?

In practice some sites drop Tor connections, and localisations come through wrong, but that doesn't seem to be why you said "no".