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Some people who take psychedelics continue hallucinating indefinitely

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Re: Some people who take psychedelics continue hallucinating indefinitely

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> Third, it talks about HPPD-like visual hallucinations in people who have never taken psychedelic drugs. It says many people have them. [...] My only argument that this doesn’t disprove HPPD is how many people – including my survey respondents – describe these oddities starting (or getting much worse) right after they use psychedelics.

This is what I believe, and I think there's a simple reason why people often report the symptoms getting worse after taking psychedelics. They are more noticeable once you've seen the full-blown effects of the drug in comparison. Prior to that, you wouldn't have any reason to pick out those hallucinations and might unconsciously ignore them. But once you've seen the full effect then even mild instances are too obvious to ignore.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been interested in taking a guided "tour" into DMT but uhh, maybe not now.

I recommend asking yourself if an idiot would do what you are going to do. Do the opposite. I took lsd by myself, with no one home at 5pm. And only while the effects started to take place did I begin researching the effects. I did not know that you can't sleep when on acid for instance. So maybe don't listen to me. I'm also not so hot mentally, so take what I say with a grain of salt.

Hahahaha but also HMM...

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So I wonder: psychedelics make you more likely to believe woo, and more likely to have certain classes of visual hallucinations. But some people believe woo without taking psychedelics, and some people have those same visual hallucinations without taking psychedelics. Interesting, I believe it and have always wondered about this. I think people's sensory experiences vary wildly by nature, but we have no access to the…

Iirc those symbols in your vision with your eyes closed aren’t hallucinations. They’re reflective of the blood pressure and flow around your eye/eye lid. Though I definitely have an ability to relax by paying attention to them. I can’t offer a source for this though.

The phenomenon you describe affects the phenomenon GP describes, but they are different phenomenon. Also, if you have relatively strong bloodflow you can see these fluctuations while staring at a white wall.

Re: Some people who take psychedelics continue hallucinating indefinitely

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Ever since I did LSD I see strange ripples sometimes when I watch moving water. I ended up coming down watching the waves as the tide came in. Every time a wave crashed the water would ripple strangely in all directions. I don't know really how else to describe it, but it's been years now and it'll still happen. Not always, but still sometimes.

Re: Some people who take psychedelics continue hallucinating indefinitely

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I have this. It used to freak me out sometimes (am I tripping?), but I have grown to accept it, even find fun in it. It's been 5 years since I last took a hallucinogen.

One scary thing about this is that I worry my emotions are permanently changed too, but I just don't notice it as much. Visual's lasting effects are very clear to me because I see them. Emotions are so complicated that I will never know how it permanently affected me. I am definitely a different person from before I started taking them.

Re: Some people who take psychedelics continue hallucinating indefinitely

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I have always steered clear of psychedelics. I know some people are super into legalization, but I wager it's a bit irresponsible considering we barely understand their long (and short, for that matter) -term effects. There's some evidence where psychedelics (particularly LSD) may have triggered schizophrenia in some patients[1]. Musician Daniel Johnston (he passed away a few months ago) is a notable case. [1] https:…

Nah I'd flip the complete opposite direction. Responsible use of psychedelics has many strong upsides, and I think the outright ban has done a lot of net harm to society.

At the very least I think doctors and researchers ought to be able to prescribe them and run experiments.

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So I wonder: psychedelics make you more likely to believe woo, and more likely to have certain classes of visual hallucinations. But some people believe woo without taking psychedelics, and some people have those same visual hallucinations without taking psychedelics. Interesting, I believe it and have always wondered about this. I think people's sensory experiences vary wildly by nature, but we have no access to the…

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