I take psychedelics once or twice a year, and sometimes I just have these weird moments where, for example, I'll look at a door and go "What the hell is that? We all walk through portals every day!" I think they bring out a sense of wonder in the mundane, which can be amazing but also occasionally disconcerting.
Some people who take psychedelics continue hallucinating indefinitely
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#22I'm not sure you can draw that kind of conclusion from a survey administered to a self-selected group of people, and I'm pretty sure that talking about it like that to the group of people who will be filling out the next survey will tend to shape the responses. Interesting topic, though.
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#23I'll admit it is rather weak sauce, but the one time I smoked salvia was enough to put me off psychadelics forever. The entire room that I was in morphed into a Roadrunner and Coyote canyonland for about five minutes, just as Chuck Jones would have it drawn up. No desire to repeat that kind of disassociation from reality.
Salvia is not weak sauce and is something that very few people enjoy compared to LSD and mushrooms.
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#24I’ve used LSD and psilocybin, though not for many years, and have had minor, infrequent, non-disruptive hallucinations.
They usually consist of momentary visual deformations of repeating patterns, e.g., tiles on a BART platform will appear to shift or move. These visual variances are a small taste of a full-on trip, in which everything can shift, move, or dance.
It’s nice to see others have shared this experience.
Related: Psychedelics caused me to have a permanent, positive attitude adjustment. I recommend them highly.
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#25I'll admit it is rather weak sauce, but the one time I smoked salvia was enough to put me off psychadelics forever. The entire room that I was in morphed into a Roadrunner and Coyote canyonland for about five minutes, just as Chuck Jones would have it drawn up. No desire to repeat that kind of disassociation from reality.
I’ve done a bit of psychedelics and a high dosage of salvia can be absolutely terrifying. It’s like peaking on what would be a 10hr trip in 5 minutes. I wouldn’t discredit your experience as “weak sauce”.
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#26I took lsd for the first time two weeks ago and sometimes when I zone out, geometric patterns like carpet appears to morph. I'm not really good at understanding my own thought process, so I can't really tell if it affects me in other areas. From my extremely limited experience however, I would warn against casually taking any psychedelics. For me at least it was a needless experience, with needless aftereffects.
I've been interested in taking a guided "tour" into DMT but uhh, maybe not now.
I recommend asking yourself if an idiot would do what you are going to do. Do the opposite. I took lsd by myself, with no one home at 5pm. And only while the effects started to take place did I begin researching the effects. I did not know that you can't sleep when on acid for instance. So maybe don't listen to me. I'm also not so hot mentally, so take what I say with a grain of salt.
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#27So I wonder: psychedelics make you more likely to believe woo, and more likely to have certain classes of visual hallucinations. But some people believe woo without taking psychedelics, and some people have those same visual hallucinations without taking psychedelics. Interesting, I believe it and have always wondered about this. I think people's sensory experiences vary wildly by nature, but we have no access to the…
Iirc those symbols in your vision with your eyes closed aren’t hallucinations. They’re reflective of the blood pressure and flow around your eye/eye lid. Though I definitely have an ability to relax by paying attention to them. I can’t offer a source for this though.
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#28I have always steered clear of psychedelics. I know some people are super into legalization, but I wager it's a bit irresponsible considering we barely understand their long (and short, for that matter) -term effects. There's some evidence where psychedelics (particularly LSD) may have triggered schizophrenia in some patients[1]. Musician Daniel Johnston (he passed away a few months ago) is a notable case. [1] https:…
Latent schizophrenics shouldn't take psychoactive drugs of any kind. Schizophrenics (like other people suffering from mental illness) are prone to self-medicate as well though. And the evidence that someone prone to schizophrenia who develops it because of drug use but wouldn't have otherwise developed schizophrenia is scant or non-existent.
> And the evidence that someone prone to schizophrenia who develops it because of drug use but wouldn't have otherwise developed schizophrenia is scant or non-existent.
It's much easier to prove that something happens, than something doesn't happen.
There is a lot of evidence that suggests that taking psychedellics can lead to schizophrenia. To conclusively prove that that person wouldn't have gotten it without those drugs is extremely difficult.
While I 100% agree that we can't conclusively prove causation at this point, we do have solid evidence that there is a correlation, and that shouldn't be discounted given the research into psycheddelics is too immature to have a chance of proving anything past that.
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#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
Latent schizophrenics shouldn't take psychoactive drugs of any kind. Schizophrenics (like other people suffering from mental illness) are prone to self-medicate as well though. And the evidence that someone prone to schizophrenia who develops it because of drug use but wouldn't have otherwise developed schizophrenia is scant or non-existent.
According to the article, it's not just schizophrenics, it's literally everyone who is at risk. Legalization would be highly irresponsible until we understand why.
He used "latent" for that reason.
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#30I’ve used LSD and psilocybin, though not for many years, and have had minor, infrequent, non-disruptive hallucinations. They usually consist of momentary visual deformations of repeating patterns, e.g., tiles on a BART platform will appear to shift or move. These visual variances are a small taste of a full-on trip, in which everything can shift, move, or dance. It’s nice to see others have shared this experience. Re…
Yeah I have several permanent overhangs from my experiences with psychedelics as well. At one point I did 500+ug of LSD in a single trip and I am still working through PTSD from some of my delusions.
That said, the net effect on my life has been massively positive and has directly contributed to me being comfortable with myself, my body, my mind, my friends, and my place in this world.
Despite the overhangs, I highly recommend psychedelics as well. Though maybe stay under 400ug :)