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Some people who take psychedelics continue hallucinating indefinitely

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Re: Some people who take psychedelics continue hallucinating indefinitely

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I took lsd for the first time two weeks ago and sometimes when I zone out, geometric patterns like carpet appears to morph. I'm not really good at understanding my own thought process, so I can't really tell if it affects me in other areas. From my extremely limited experience however, I would warn against casually taking any psychedelics. For me at least it was a needless experience, with needless aftereffects.

Re: Some people who take psychedelics continue hallucinating indefinitely

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I took lsd for the first time two weeks ago and sometimes when I zone out, geometric patterns like carpet appears to morph. I'm not really good at understanding my own thought process, so I can't really tell if it affects me in other areas. From my extremely limited experience however, I would warn against casually taking any psychedelics. For me at least it was a needless experience, with needless aftereffects.

If you get a lumbar puncture it should drain all that extra acid out of your spinal column. After that make sure to del /sys32/

Re: Some people who take psychedelics continue hallucinating indefinitely

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I have always steered clear of psychedelics. I know some people are super into legalization, but I wager it's a bit irresponsible considering we barely understand their long (and short, for that matter) -term effects. There's some evidence where psychedelics (particularly LSD) may have triggered schizophrenia in some patients[1].

Musician Daniel Johnston (he passed away a few months ago) is a notable case.

[1] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6870484

Re: Some people who take psychedelics continue hallucinating indefinitely

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> Hallucinogen Persisting Perceptual Disorder is a condition marked by visual or other perceptual disturbances typical of psychedelic use that continue for weeks and months after coming off the psychedelic, in some cases permanently. Have you ever had this condition?

‘Visual or other perceptual disturbances’ is very different than hallucinating.

HPPD is probably real, but also probably not a big deal for most people. It most likely just results at staring at empty space a bit more from time to time when something odd pops up.

There are bigger risks with psychedelics such as trigger an underlying mental condition or suffering emotional trauma (‘bad trip’).

Re: Some people who take psychedelics continue hallucinating indefinitely

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I took lsd for the first time two weeks ago and sometimes when I zone out, geometric patterns like carpet appears to morph. I'm not really good at understanding my own thought process, so I can't really tell if it affects me in other areas. From my extremely limited experience however, I would warn against casually taking any psychedelics. For me at least it was a needless experience, with needless aftereffects.

For many people including myself, this is something that goes away over time. If you are concerned about it, avoid psychedelics as well as cannabis.

Re: Some people who take psychedelics continue hallucinating indefinitely

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I took lsd for the first time two weeks ago and sometimes when I zone out, geometric patterns like carpet appears to morph. I'm not really good at understanding my own thought process, so I can't really tell if it affects me in other areas. From my extremely limited experience however, I would warn against casually taking any psychedelics. For me at least it was a needless experience, with needless aftereffects.

This could be unrelated, this has happened to me plenty of times in the past and I think it could sometimes be related to either lack of sleep, dehydration, or fluctuations in blood pressure.

Re: Some people who take psychedelics continue hallucinating indefinitely

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So I wonder: psychedelics make you more likely to believe woo, and more likely to have certain classes of visual hallucinations. But some people believe woo without taking psychedelics, and some people have those same visual hallucinations without taking psychedelics.

Interesting, I believe it and have always wondered about this. I think people's sensory experiences vary wildly by nature, but we have no access to them so can't really prove anything.

Some people are audiophiles, others foodies, others fashionistas, etc.

Your athletic ability can vary from Usain Bolt to completely uncoordinated; some people have photographic memories (e.g. Lebron James apparently); some people can factor large numbers in their heads (computation), or recite huge strings of digits (non-episodic memory).

Some people are prediposed to like drugs and others don't. (e.g. reading a lot of rock n' roll biographies it becomes apparent that the alcohol and heroin addictions aren't randomly distributed; it's somewhat "innate")

It would be surprising if our sensory experiences did NOT vary widely.

This sounds silly and is totally unsubstantiated, but I always believed my senses are "accurate". I told a friend in high school this and he said it was stupid and impossible :)

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Although I can also conjure some low-level hallucinations when "looking at the back of my eyelids" when falling asleep. I imagine that's pretty normal/common since low light is sort of like sensory deprivation.

But they are very elaborate hallucations with all sorts of geometric forms and motion. Elaborate but not intense, if that makes sense.

Re: Some people who take psychedelics continue hallucinating indefinitely

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I took lsd for the first time two weeks ago and sometimes when I zone out, geometric patterns like carpet appears to morph. I'm not really good at understanding my own thought process, so I can't really tell if it affects me in other areas. From my extremely limited experience however, I would warn against casually taking any psychedelics. For me at least it was a needless experience, with needless aftereffects.

It's fairly common to see residual effects and trails for weeks afterwards, particularly when tired. I don't know anyone who hasn't had that to some extent after taking LSD.

Re: Some people who take psychedelics continue hallucinating indefinitely

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2,234 readers admitted to having used psychedelics. Of those, 285 (= 12.8%) stated that they had some hallucinations that persisted afterwards. 219 (9.8%) said they’d had them for a while and then they had gone away. 66 (= 3%) stated that they still had the hallucinations (one limit of the study: I don’t know how long it has been since those people took the psychedelics).

But most of these people reported very mild experiences; on a scale from 1-10, the median severity was 2. The most commonly reported changes were more “visual snow” (ie “static” in the visual field), slight haloes around objects, and visual trails. Many people reported that if they stared at a textured area like a carpet long enough, illusory geometric patterns would start to form. Only a few people noticed anything weirder than this.

So, 3% of a small study have relatively mild visual effects. Oh no!

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