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By removing “extremist content,” platforms are purging human rights evidence

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Re: By removing “extremist content,” platforms are purging human rights evidence

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Youtube and Facebook, while convenient, aren't really appropriate mediums for them to share this sort of footage. Liveleak comes to mind as a service better suited for a public repository of this video.

Archival of footage shouldn't be dependent on a third party platform that can, at will, delete every single video on a whim. Likely for this sort of thing a diligent archivist will need to put in the effort of storing it safely, because those videos will almost all end up being deleted on platforms that rely on ad revenue.

Re: By removing “extremist content,” platforms are purging human rights evidence

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Sounds about right. They demonetize blancoliorio's in-depth commercial aircraft and pilot industry analysis as "sad content." Oh and donutoperator gets demonetized despite blurring almost everything and not swearing. Non-corporate content creators and random people have NO rights on corporate platforms like YT. The only solution is another platform that respects creators, has sane/straightforward policies and doesn't permit rampant scams and extortions.

Re: By removing “extremist content,” platforms are purging human rights evidence

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This is a volume problem that has no real solution. On one hand, it's a shame that this kind of content is getting removed, but on the other, it's also untenable for YouTube to hire thousands upon thousands of video moderators. It's a sad reality that if anyone uploaded content akin to Shoah[1] -- the 9-hour-long Holocaust documentary; a personal favorite and an absolute masterpiece -- it would get promptly removed. But it's a reality nonetheless.

YouTube is trying to straddle the line between platform and publisher and it feels like the hammer will soon drop.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoah_(film)

Re: By removing “extremist content,” platforms are purging human rights evidence

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Sounds about right. They demonetize blancoliorio's in-depth commercial aircraft and pilot industry analysis as "sad content." Oh and donutoperator gets demonetized despite blurring almost everything and not swearing. Non-corporate content creators and random people have NO rights on corporate platforms like YT. The only solution is another platform that respects creators, has sane/straightforward policies and doesn't…

> The only solution is another platform that respects creators, has sane/straightforward policies and doesn't permit rampant scams and extortions.

What is that alternate platform?

For many people, web video is YouTube.

Re: By removing “extremist content,” platforms are purging human rights evidence

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post #3

Youtube and Facebook, while convenient, aren't really appropriate mediums for them to share this sort of footage. Liveleak comes to mind as a service better suited for a public repository of this video. Archival of footage shouldn't be dependent on a third party platform that can, at will, delete every single video on a whim. Likely for this sort of thing a diligent archivist will need to put in the effort of storing…

Exactly. You need something like Internet Archive or better that is archival quality, random internet vandalism-proof and FBI raid-proof.

Re: By removing “extremist content,” platforms are purging human rights evidence

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Why would you trust a for-profit company to archive anything and care? They don't. It's unreasonable to expect anything different.

If you want things archived, non-profit solutions exist, or you should be doing it yourself and making sure the content is shared among people who are also able to archive it.

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