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Re: We are leaving the Apple App Store and all its problems

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You can have an Apple developer account without paying for it, there’s a free tier, and I think that is allowed for what your parent is referring to.

I have an Apple developer account...

So do I and I don't pay for it, and I can sign my apps. What's different in your case?

Re: We are leaving the Apple App Store and all its problems

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You couldn't make a call and browse the Internet at the same time on an iPhone. You couldn't copy and paste text on an iPhone. The camera was worse than any contemporary mid range camera phone.

I could make a phone call and browse the interest on my gen1 iPhone. I used ATT as my network. Verizon had the limitation you described, but not all carriers. Copy and paste didn’t work, but it didn’t work on any phone at the time. A few attempted it (eg, win mobile, blackberry) but it really sucked. The camera was quite good and the ability to finally save and share photos and video was revolutionary at the time. I…

Copy and paste on Android worked well before iOS, both in ability and timing. I remember being confused my wife couldn't copy and paste with her iPhone when I had a password manager. Copy and paste on iOS took way, way too long. It's interesting how you're claiming you were doing things that didn't exist for the device.

Re: We are leaving the Apple App Store and all its problems

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This press release contains a lot of trivial errors. > Compatible Scanner (in the header menu ) should be "Compatibility" > not sustainable to run a company and pay salleries "salaries" > it is not provide to provide not "viable"? > we think a paid upgrade is fair for continuously developing, improvements, and support "for continuous development, improvements, and support" > support a product indefinetly for free "in…

I couldn’t agree more. And on top of that: How often you have to make an emergency bug fix? why do you need make constant fixes and patches? What do you mean by paid updates? Do you want users to pay for fixing a bug, that you introduced? Do you only test on your end-users?

Re: We are leaving the Apple App Store and all its problems

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I know a number of apps that sell both on and off the App Store and cripple the latter. Where does it say this is against the rules?

What apps do this? How do they distribute on iOS without the App Store?

I think they're referring to MacOS app store here. Certain applications might need access outside of the sandbox for certain features to work so a non-app store version would have more functionality than the app store version.

Re: We are leaving the Apple App Store and all its problems

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The fact that we have to have humans look at our software before we can go to market in 2019 is absurd. I had high hopes for the future as a teen growing up with Napster, Bittorrent, IRC, Trillian/Pidgin, and an explosive WWW. Look at what a pinheaded mess everything has become. Greed destroyed the open and experimental Internet.

> Greed destroyed the open and experimental Internet. Did it? Or did it expand the open and experimental internet to also include profit-making ventures? This meme crops up a lot on HN, but I can't see what's stopping the same internet thriving - there's still self hosting, there's still an open public internet (apart from some newer restrictions around copyright which were inevitable), there's still P2P for those le…

> Or did it expand the open and experimental internet to also include profit-making ventures?

Why not both?

Re: We are leaving the Apple App Store and all its problems

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I gave up on App Store as a user. I only use it for system updates an Apple software (eg. Pages) I just use Homebrew. - It has all the software I use not just 50% - If not I can easy ad it. - With bundler, I can set up my new computer super easy - If somebody dislikes the CLI there is Cakebrew

homebrew trashes /usr/local/lib permissions if you have multiple users on the same machine. It's extremely annoying.

Re: We are leaving the Apple App Store and all its problems

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It might be some future for niche/specific uses, but i'm certain the current model of downloading an installer for applications and games or having a (non-sandboxed) downloader like Steam, Galaxy, Origin, EGS, etc will remain the most common by far. Unless Microsoft tries to force that, but they'll certainly face a lot of resistance and with their apparent coupling of Windows Store with the sandboxing model they coul…

Sandboxing is orthogonal to the store.

Yes, but it isn't orthogonal to 3rd party stores in that you need to escape it for them to work. And really the same applies with a lot of other application types too.

Re: We are leaving the Apple App Store and all its problems

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I have an Apple developer account...

So do I and I don't pay for it, and I can sign my apps. What's different in your case?

So now developer certificates are available on the free tier?

Re: We are leaving the Apple App Store and all its problems

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> Because everyone outside US have heard of them. They really haven't. > Should I start digging market shares figures of feature phones before iPhone came to be? At this juncture, yes.

By all means, is 64 million shippments in 2006, the year before iPhone came to the market enough? https://www.canalys.com/newsroom/64-million-smart-phones-shi... Incredible how iOS fanbase tries to rewrite history.

You're moving the goalposts massively. No one is claiming that the first gen iPhone outsold anything or anyone. More importantly, that data is for 2006, the N95, of which you claim everyone and their dog knew about, didn't become available until march 2007. Your claim that the N95 was massively popular is also wide of the mark. Nokia had around 30 SKU's available to buy at the time, with the N95 being one of the very top end devices. All your link shows is that Nokia had the lions share of revenue and market share. Well, yeah. No one with half a brain would argue that.

TL;DR: Look at how Nokia's revenue collaspsed post September 2007. Look at how Android and Nokia's decision to go all in on Windows Mobile accelerated it. Then tell me that the iOS fanbase is trying to rewrite history...

Re: We are leaving the Apple App Store and all its problems

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I'm sorry but as a user, I trust my relationship with Apple more than I trust random third party devs. As a user, I want Apple to lock down the system and make things hard for developers. As a developer, I empathize with my perspective as a user and build products that take this into account.

> I'm sorry but as a user, I trust my relationship with Apple more than I trust random third party devs.

I don't see any reason why one would trust Apple more than a random third party dev. To me they are one and the same.

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