Dungeons & Dragons ruled a threat to prison security
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Dungeons & Dragons ruled a threat to prison security
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Re: Dungeons & Dragons ruled a threat to prison security
#2The arguments the gang "expert" made about similarities between D&D player organization and gang organization would apply equally well to many organized religions, such as Catholicism. I wonder if a prison could get away with banning that?
Re: Dungeons & Dragons ruled a threat to prison security
#3The arguments the gang "expert" made about similarities between D&D player organization and gang organization would apply equally well to many organized religions, such as Catholicism. I wonder if a prison could get away with banning that?
Leads to the question: if Singer and his fellow players just got a little more "serious" about playing DnD, to the point where they could argue it constituted a religion, would they then be allowed to play?
Re: Dungeons & Dragons ruled a threat to prison security
#4The arguments the gang "expert" made about similarities between D&D player organization and gang organization would apply equally well to many organized religions, such as Catholicism. I wonder if a prison could get away with banning that?
Leads to the question: if Singer and his fellow players just got a little more "serious" about playing DnD, to the point where they could argue it constituted a religion, would they then be allowed to play?
Unlikely, courts tend to take a dim view on religions that aren't several hundreds if not thousands of years old.
It is a legal hack to prevent situations like the one you described.
Re: Dungeons & Dragons ruled a threat to prison security
#5I do wish that US prisons would decide whether they're in the business of punishment or rehabilitation. You see a lot of talk about rehabilitation, of course, but so much of what goes on in there seems to have no purpose but to punish people. (e.g. broad societal tolerance of prison-rape, or petty tyrannies such as those described in the article)
I'd prefer that they came down on the side of rehabilitation, of course... but I'd settle for /honesty/ about their goals.
Re: Dungeons & Dragons ruled a threat to prison security
#6I used to think that blogging couldn't hurt your career. Then I read this post.
From the sidebar:
This post is authored by Evan Jowers and Robert Kinney of Kinney Recruiting, sponsor of the Asia Chronicles. Kinney has made more placements of U.S. associates and partners in Asia than any other firm in the past four years.
Then we have the following professional-sounding quotes:
I used to play Dungeons & Dragons in high school. Just as predictably, I didn’t lose my virginity until I stopped.
any D&D “gang” member would find themselves tossing salads faster than you can say
I stopped reading at about this point. If you are going to do a legal analysis on your bullshit placement firm's blog, try to err on the side of being too professional. If you are going to make jokes, try to at least be funny.
Re: Dungeons & Dragons ruled a threat to prison security
#7I do wish that US prisons would decide whether they're in the business of punishment or rehabilitation. You see a lot of talk about rehabilitation, of course, but so much of what goes on in there seems to have no purpose but to punish people. (e.g. broad societal tolerance of prison-rape, or petty tyrannies such as those described in the article) I'd prefer that they came down on the side of rehabilitation, of course…
>I do wish that US prisons would decide whether they're in the business...
They have decided. They are in the business of BUSINESS -- it is a profitable system where they harvest their crop through a corrupt system of laws - even outright bribing judges to send them new meat (like the case with the juvenile judges back east -- http://boingboing.net/2009/02/02/judges-jailed-for-ta.html)
Honesty about their goals == PROFIT
Re: Dungeons & Dragons ruled a threat to prison security
#8I used to think that blogging couldn't hurt your career. Then I read this post. From the sidebar: This post is authored by Evan Jowers and Robert Kinney of Kinney Recruiting, sponsor of the Asia Chronicles. Kinney has made more placements of U.S. associates and partners in Asia than any other firm in the past four years. Then we have the following professional-sounding quotes: I used to play Dungeons & Dragons in hig…
He made it pretty clear it was self-depreciative humour. If this blog post actually offended you, instead of merely making you think that others might be offended, then I suggest that you lighten up a bit.
Re: Dungeons & Dragons ruled a threat to prison security
#9I do wish that US prisons would decide whether they're in the business of punishment or rehabilitation. You see a lot of talk about rehabilitation, of course, but so much of what goes on in there seems to have no purpose but to punish people. (e.g. broad societal tolerance of prison-rape, or petty tyrannies such as those described in the article) I'd prefer that they came down on the side of rehabilitation, of course…
>I do wish that US prisons would decide whether they're in the business... They have decided. They are in the business of BUSINESS -- it is a profitable system where they harvest their crop through a corrupt system of laws - even outright bribing judges to send them new meat (like the case with the juvenile judges back east -- http://boingboing.net/2009/02/02/judges-jailed-for-ta.html ) Honesty about their goals == P…
Rehabilitation is actually bad for business, since rehabilitated inmates won't be returning "customers". It's just so wrong that prisons are run by private companies...
Re: Dungeons & Dragons ruled a threat to prison security
#10The arguments the gang "expert" made about similarities between D&D player organization and gang organization would apply equally well to many organized religions, such as Catholicism. I wonder if a prison could get away with banning that?
Leads to the question: if Singer and his fellow players just got a little more "serious" about playing DnD, to the point where they could argue it constituted a religion, would they then be allowed to play?
Nah. Prison systems have a much more narrow definition of what constitutes a religion. Some have a pre-defined list of approved religions. Religions usually must be established and organized.