Earlier quoted context omitted.
That is literally the opposite of what the sentence said?
But that's the option that they are giving.
No.
Think young people are hostile to capitalism now? Wait for the next recession
281–290 of 309 posts
Re: Think young people are hostile to capitalism now? Wait for the next recession
#282Earlier quoted context omitted.
This comment is just "millennials are poor because of avocado on toast". There is an untold number of anti-capitalist academics who would take issue with this. Not to mention that equating anti-capitalism with wanting "the government to come in and take care of you" is insulting to communists, anarchists, and other anti-state anti-capitalists.
My apologies for not prefacing my comment with a trigger warning for the comrades in our audience.
Flamewar like this will get you banned here. Would you please read https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules when posting?
Re: Think young people are hostile to capitalism now? Wait for the next recession
#283Earlier quoted context omitted.
My apologies for not prefacing my comment with a trigger warning for the comrades in our audience.
Beautiful, doubling down on your stupidity with more tired tropes. How creative of you.
Flamewar like this will get you banned here. Would you please read https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules when posting?
Re: Think young people are hostile to capitalism now? Wait for the next recession
#284Earlier quoted context omitted.
Just on the chainsaw point, take care: unless it somehow happened in the only corner of the city with police and protestors but without 100 smartphone cameras pointed at them at all times, it's utter bullshit. These police have been totally disproportionate in their use of force and hence have a huge incentive to sensationalise the actions of those 15 year olds.
I find chainsaws perfectly plausible in this context You forgot that there is a policeman in critic state at the hospital after being hit with a rock in the head by this merry people (while bearing a security helmet that was perforated by the force of the impact). And also that a police helicopter was videotaped being attacked with fireworks and the responsible faces now charges of attempt of homicide by trying to ta…
I didn't forget that, and thousands of police weren't injured, actually. That's wrong by an order of magnitude.
The point is that there is so much video evidence of the entire conflict that we don't really need to deal in hyperbole. There's so much footage and - as you so graciously demonstrated - so much incentive to exaggerate the misdeeds of the other, that we don't need to believe anything which either side says to support their aggressions.
The footage might eventually emerge of the hatchas, lavadoras and motosierras, but let's wait until it does before we take it as gospel. The videos we do have show that the police have already demonstrated that they are willing to lie.
There's a video of someone using a pickup to plow into a group of mossos. Talk about that, don't casually lap up their unsubstantiated talking points.
Re: Think young people are hostile to capitalism now? Wait for the next recession
#285Earlier quoted context omitted.
How are you earning capital gains with that million, specifically?
Mostly by buying stocks and it works: the SP500 doubled in the past 10 years, and I did far better than that. You can consider my investment as contributions, because I most certainly bought stocks from other rich persons and the stock markets is growing fast mostly thanks to the bank central policies (note that my free money never directly helped the company of which I bought stocks). I purchased an apartment too, a…
Any investment can fail. You spent money to bet on the price going up and won. Someone else lost.
The markets aren't exclusively available to the rich. Anyone can buy and sell stocks.
Successful people get to live better than the poor. That is why we should do more to encourage more poor people to live better by contributing more.
The economy is not zero-sum.
Re: Think young people are hostile to capitalism now? Wait for the next recession
#286Earlier quoted context omitted.
> We only need one set of gendered pronouns Which set do you think would suffice?
In my native language, that is, Kazakh, third-person pronouns are gender-less. "It said it would come tomorrow" means "He/She/It said he/she/it would come tomorrow" and it somehow works :) You're to infer the gender from context.
English example is the singular they. "It" has some additional implication on age.
Re: Think young people are hostile to capitalism now? Wait for the next recession
#287Capitalism or just bankers and other usurers?
Re: Think young people are hostile to capitalism now? Wait for the next recession
#288Earlier quoted context omitted.
> "pride, character, and respect from colleagues are things that don't pay the bill" I can name several dozen colleagues I've worked for over the years who will vouch for me and help me get a job if I should ever need it and that does pay the bills. People who say things like the above quote, can't.
what if you met those colleagues at a relatively low-wage job, and neither you nor anyone else who will vouch for you has advanced very far beyond that low wage level? sure, they can get you a job, but it will be a horizontal move for you if you are currently employed, and certainly no step up from your prior employment if you're suddenly unemployed. consider that for many young people outside of the software and fin…
Presuming you want or need to get ahead - and you should carefully examine the reasons why you do.
There is usually a cost to getting up.
Horizontal moves are acceptable and sometimes even optimal.
Re: Think young people are hostile to capitalism now? Wait for the next recession
#289Earlier quoted context omitted.
In my native language, that is, Kazakh, third-person pronouns are gender-less. "It said it would come tomorrow" means "He/She/It said he/she/it would come tomorrow" and it somehow works :) You're to infer the gender from context.
English example is the singular they. "It" has some additional implication on age.
Except the "singular they" doesn't exist and in basically a forced change of spoken language by a minority who thinks forcing people is a great way to accomplish things
Re: Think young people are hostile to capitalism now? Wait for the next recession
#290Earlier quoted context omitted.
Since they didn’t say that you are presenting a false dilemma. Suggesting two binary extremes and ignoring the possibility of a spectrum of outcomes in a multifaceted problem We aren’t toddlers so try not use juvenile logic
Socialism is just a word that's used as "not capitalism". The point is, though, if the ownership of capitals (means of production) is so concentrated (1% own 90% of capital), then pretty much the only "solution" is effectively disowning them, consequences be damned. That's clearly in contrast to the spirit (and law) of capitalism, hence many (even capitalists) would simply call it "socialism" (or "communism"), even i…
There are multiple ways to disown companies.
One time tested way is nationalization, explicit by making the owner officials or by making the company leadership national government. (Slightly different effects.) Authoritarian governments prefer former, market based ones the later. (Second example is Korean Chaebols and their big influence.)
The other is directly bestowing workers with ownership or equity, in the extreme converting companies into cooperatives. This is not socialism, but communism. (Not to be mistaken with stalinism or maoism.)