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Edward Snowden on The Joe Rogan Experience [video]

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Re: Edward Snowden on The Joe Rogan Experience [video]

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Post by cm2187 »

buboard wrote: post #5
_zamorano_ wrote: post #3

It's not strange many interesting people want to visit Joe Rogan podcast. First, he is willing to give a voice to many who won't be able to tell their stories on mass media. Who other will let speak people like James Damore? What major broadcaster is willing to interview Jordan Peterson without protraiting him as a villain? He respects his guest, when in disagrement. His interview to Jack Dorsey (not much of his liki…

The reason he can be "more independent" is exactly because he's not dependent financially on media, not his MMA bg.

But he is financially dependent on youtube, isn't he? I am not suggesting he auto-censors himself but he is not "independent".

Re: Edward Snowden on The Joe Rogan Experience [video]

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Post by LandR »

cm2187 wrote: post #21
buboard wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The reason he can be "more independent" is exactly because he's not dependent financially on media, not his MMA bg.

But he is financially dependent on youtube, isn't he? I am not suggesting he auto-censors himself but he is not "independent".

Does the actual podcast, not the one that gets uploaded to YouTube, have Joe reading ads?

I assumed it did and they got cut out?

Re: Edward Snowden on The Joe Rogan Experience [video]

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Post by zelly »

andrew_ wrote: post #13

His podcasts are infinitely better than any amount of talking-head punditry available on the major news networks. I've not run across one yet that wasn't well-reasoned, patient, and interesting - even if I didn't agree with conclusions being made or the thought processes expressing them.

More people listen to his podcast than watch network news.

Re: Edward Snowden on The Joe Rogan Experience [video]

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Post by Phillipharryt »

LandR wrote: post #22
cm2187 wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But he is financially dependent on youtube, isn't he? I am not suggesting he auto-censors himself but he is not "independent".

Does the actual podcast, not the one that gets uploaded to YouTube, have Joe reading ads? I assumed it did and they got cut out?

Podcasts can also be uploaded to services that intersperse advertising (or place them at determined points) on their own, even if the host doesn't read the adverts during the podcast. Midroll is the big name in that business.

Re: Edward Snowden on The Joe Rogan Experience [video]

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Post by heyflyguy »

This is the first time, and maybe it's just because of the length of the interview; that I've noticed Snowden's being slightly untethered from sensibility. The first 10 minutes in particular was a little worrisome.

I imagine that being stuck in Russia, with the pressure he's under has contributed to this. I do wonder how much of this personality bubble was in place when he made the decisions he did.

Nevertheless, I do have a love hate relationship with what he did.

Re: Edward Snowden on The Joe Rogan Experience [video]

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Post by johnmorrison »

andrew_ wrote: post #13

His podcasts are infinitely better than any amount of talking-head punditry available on the major news networks. I've not run across one yet that wasn't well-reasoned, patient, and interesting - even if I didn't agree with conclusions being made or the thought processes expressing them.

You should see JRE#917, Steven doesn't really care about the whole marijuana issue and Joe completely bullies and flames him for like thirty minutes.

That one was not well-reasoned or patient, but other than that, I've found almost all of Joe's podcasts to be very good. He's definitely one of the greatest interviewers on the planet right now.

Re: Edward Snowden on The Joe Rogan Experience [video]

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Post by Phillipharryt »

RealityVoid wrote: post #18
cjfd wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Democracy is a system of government where the three powers: law giving, executive, and judicial are separated and at least the law giving is in the hands of (representatives of) the people. In the case of the massive spying by government we are dealing with secret laws and/or the executive branch writing its own law. This is not very compatible with democracy.

While I understand your definition, this is not what Wikipedia nor what Merriam-Webster use for it. The separation of powers in three branches is not strictly necessary for a democracy, just a mechanism through witch it is attained. Surely, there could be examples where the powers are slpit another way that could still qualify as democracies. If, somehow, the will of the people were to accept spying as a cornerstone…

You're not really nitpicking, the parent comment has stretched democracy somewhat to encompass a lot of what I assume they associate with a good government.

Re: Edward Snowden on The Joe Rogan Experience [video]

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Post by buboard »

cm2187 wrote: post #21
buboard wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The reason he can be "more independent" is exactly because he's not dependent financially on media, not his MMA bg.

But he is financially dependent on youtube, isn't he? I am not suggesting he auto-censors himself but he is not "independent".

No his podcast makes more money outside of youtube. I m pretty sure he makes "F U Youtube" money to not care about self-censorship

https://www.quora.com/How-much-money-does-Joe-Rogan-make-fro...

Re: Edward Snowden on The Joe Rogan Experience [video]

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Post by ekianjo »

sdan wrote: post #11
ekianjo wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For 2 its not like he had a choice to do it in person...

Right. Only other scenario that would work is for Joe to fly over there... which probably wouldn't happen. Regardless, Joe's getting so many good interviews in the past two years.

> Regardless, Joe's getting so many good interviews in the past two years.

Joe has been a better journalist than 99% of real journalists. Makes pretty much everyone else look like an amateur at this.

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