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A New Aristocracy: Yale Law School Commencement Address (2015) [pdf]

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Re: A New Aristocracy: Yale Law School Commencement Address (2015) [pdf]

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My school and work experience span working class coal power plant techs (a friend used to climb through exhaust channels) to Ivy League educated lawyers and founders. Most people’s career trajectory will be set by the time they are in high school, so the importance of secondary school education and resources of your parents is paramount. Also, wealth from family of origin allows risk taking, funding for law or medica…

Going to Yale law is a very low risk strategy.

Re: A New Aristocracy: Yale Law School Commencement Address (2015) [pdf]

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My school and work experience span working class coal power plant techs (a friend used to climb through exhaust channels) to Ivy League educated lawyers and founders. Most people’s career trajectory will be set by the time they are in high school, so the importance of secondary school education and resources of your parents is paramount. Also, wealth from family of origin allows risk taking, funding for law or medica…

What is the risk associated with a medical degree? It seemed to be the default path for risk averse middle class kids with science talent.

Re: A New Aristocracy: Yale Law School Commencement Address (2015) [pdf]

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Graduating from Yale Law sounds like it's for suckers. Let the elites have their crazy working hours and stressful hoop jumping--I'm not envious.

In the age of big data, the gig economy, and oligrachs dominating the US economy and political sphere--you're next.

You should read The Meritocracy Trap by Daniel Markovits: https://www.themeritocracytrap.com/

The author is actually a Yale Law Professor, and the book came out about a month ago.

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Graduating from Yale Law sounds like it's for suckers. Let the elites have their crazy working hours and stressful hoop jumping--I'm not envious.

Their cohort effectively sets the vision for American legislation and justice. You may not be interested in them, but they're interested in you.

Re: A New Aristocracy: Yale Law School Commencement Address (2015) [pdf]

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My school and work experience span working class coal power plant techs (a friend used to climb through exhaust channels) to Ivy League educated lawyers and founders. Most people’s career trajectory will be set by the time they are in high school, so the importance of secondary school education and resources of your parents is paramount. Also, wealth from family of origin allows risk taking, funding for law or medica…

What is the risk associated with a medical degree? It seemed to be the default path for risk averse middle class kids with science talent.

The risk of Medical and Law school is the enormous debt you take on. Those costs would have been about 4x times the value of my parents homes for example.

If for some reason you don’t make it through Med or Law school, it’s not like they forgive the debt.

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Graduating from Yale Law sounds like it's for suckers. Let the elites have their crazy working hours and stressful hoop jumping--I'm not envious.

Or a notably 4/9 minority at the Supreme Court. The majority of course went to Harvard.

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I found the link on archive: https://web.archive.org/web/20191023044540/https://law.yale.... If one is to feel good about meritocracy, it is that the ambitious, talented and hardworking have the greatest chance of changing the system for everyone's shared benefit.

If only there was evidence to support that assertion.

As against the the unambitious, talentless and lazy having the greatest chance of changing the system for everyone's shared benefit.

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Graduating from Yale Law sounds like it's for suckers. Let the elites have their crazy working hours and stressful hoop jumping--I'm not envious.

And yet we routinely see people here arguing in defence of 80- to 100-hour work weeks at startups. This kind of mind-sickness is not the sole domain of the elite legal profession.

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I found the link on archive: https://web.archive.org/web/20191023044540/https://law.yale.... If one is to feel good about meritocracy, it is that the ambitious, talented and hardworking have the greatest chance of changing the system for everyone's shared benefit.

If only there was evidence to support that assertion.

The opposite of that is the stereotypical Soviet style, shoemaker working as a mason, carpenter working as the prime minister. There's a room in between for something sane, but anything sane will also be discriminatory with respect to skills.

It seems to me that this pileup against meritocracy is primarily about personal rewards, and not about utility to society.

Re: A New Aristocracy: Yale Law School Commencement Address (2015) [pdf]

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Graduating from Yale Law sounds like it's for suckers. Let the elites have their crazy working hours and stressful hoop jumping--I'm not envious.

Their cohort effectively sets the vision for American legislation and justice. You may not be interested in them, but they're interested in you.

This. These folks are helping to shape new laws that set precedent for every other case. For example: the wealthiest now pay historically low tax rates [1][2]

[1] https://twitter.com/DLeonhardt/status/1181004566088814594

[2] https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/10/06/opinion/incom...

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