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Why iOS 13 and Catalina Are So Buggy

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Re: Why iOS 13 and Catalina Are So Buggy

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I’ve been super annoyed at some bugs in iOS Safari. In particular, double tap to zoom on web pages is completely broken. It’s a really old feature that just suddenly stopped working in the new iOS release.

That reminds me, during iOS 8, the Safari back button was broken for VoiceOver users. For half a year. They fixed it a few months before the next release :-(

Re: Why iOS 13 and Catalina Are So Buggy

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After doing some iOS/Mac development, I'd say some bugginiess is caused by changing APIs and behaviors inflicted by Apple, expected to be absorbed/dealt with by developers. They mercilessly do this with every release and no doubt that affects their internal projects. Also, xcode has gone the way of iTunes and ObjC was always a huge pain. It's a really hostile environment to develop in, where you're having to play catch up all the time.

Re: Why iOS 13 and Catalina Are So Buggy

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post #27

The way I've heard one company deal with noticing non-crashing bugs is to treat warning logs as 'crashes' with backtrace snapshots and upload them as specially tagged non-fatal crashes. Might help apple see if clients are having specific icloud issues.

This seems like a really good idea to me. Is it possible to do in a way that preserves privacy and doesn’t basically become a hidden “telemetry” system?

Re: Why iOS 13 and Catalina Are So Buggy

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post #11
post #4

I’ve been super annoyed at some bugs in iOS Safari. In particular, double tap to zoom on web pages is completely broken. It’s a really old feature that just suddenly stopped working in the new iOS release.

Yep just noticed this today. Why remove this feature ? Did people complain about this during beta and Apple ignore it. Although zooming in by pinching and then double tapping reverts to original size which is nowhere near as useful. Fingers crossed for a point release that brings this back.

It's actually still around, however on some pages Safari will go into some sort of weird state where scrolling is slightly broken (you can't overscroll and have the page bounce back is the indicator that you're in the broken state). When you're in that state, double tapping to zoom doesn't work either. I find that I mostly encounter this bug on Reddit.

Re: Why iOS 13 and Catalina Are So Buggy

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm on the second-latest MacBook Pro. I completely erased my disk and installed a fresh copy of Catalina when it was released. It's been patched with the post-release update. Almost all settings are at their recommended defaults, there is no third-party stuff that modifies system behavior, and I mostly only use Apple's own apps and services for stuff like music, books, cloud, mail etc. And boy yes there are bugs. Not…

So... what are the bugs?

My earlier comment about files disappearing from Music.app: [0]

Just now, I had taken some screenshots in a game. One of the screenshots insisted on sitting outside the Screenshots stack for some reason (Stacks automatically collapse similar items on the desktop.)

When you open a book in Books.app, then view a different Desktop Space, the Books window automatically jumps to that space, even without the "Show on All Desktops" option.

Activity Monitor column widths randomly grow towards infinity.

Display Accessibility options randomly stop taking effect until relogging.

Widgets randomly rearrange themselves in the Notification Center.

Music/TV/Podcasts/App Store sometimes show no content, just blank views.

On the developer side, many bugs and missing documentation for SwiftUI.

I don't have the energy to type them all out here again after writing their bug reports.

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21318159

Re: Why iOS 13 and Catalina Are So Buggy

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Every .0 release for iOS and OSX has been buggy. Every single one. And then a few point releases later and it's all forgotten. And then the next .0 release arrives and the blog posts reappear.

Every .0 release for iOS and OSX has been buggy. Every single one.

I've run and tested every release going back to 2001 and it's been a while since a macOS release has been this buggy and caused serious data loss in some cases.

So even for .0 release, this has been pretty bad.

Re: Why iOS 13 and Catalina Are So Buggy

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post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hold down the space key as if you would be force touching it. It will make your finger become the "cursor". Slide it around as you see fit.

I was referring to text that's not editable. I can no longer select text on the screen without peeking under my finger to see if I selected everything

Yup, the magnifyig glass is gone. A horrible design choice to get rid of it IMO

Re: Why iOS 13 and Catalina Are So Buggy

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My wife’s Iphone lost most of its battery life since the update. Very dramatic difference

That’s the new setting of the battery where the software fakes 100% at 90-80% of capacity based on the age and performance of the battery.

This can be turned off in the preferences.

Re: Why iOS 13 and Catalina Are So Buggy

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Every .0 release for iOS and OSX has been buggy. Every single one. And then a few point releases later and it's all forgotten. And then the next .0 release arrives and the blog posts reappear.

Every .0 release for iOS and OSX has been buggy. Every single one. I've run and tested every release going back to 2001 and it's been a while since a macOS release has been this buggy and caused serious data loss in some cases. So even for .0 release, this has been pretty bad.

May I be Goldilocks? I’ve used basically every iOS beta. Beta 1 is always AWFUL. Then it gets better and better. iOS 13 is probably the worst, but only incrementally so. It’s hardly worth having a fuss.
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