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Re: Firefox 70

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WebKit also works on other platforms.

You're thinking of Blink. WebKit is pretty exclusive to macOS and iOS these days.

No, I'm not; I'm actually typing this from WebKit on Linux. I'd actually guess that WebKit runs on more platforms than Blink does…

Re: Firefox 70

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> this means that my battery is going to last 4-5x longer with Safari Well it might last 4-5x longer if you run safari in the background, since that is what you tested. But wouldn't the real test be running both browsers as the active window and comparing those results? One thing that Safari is incredibly good at (and its' engineers are proud of) is the ability to reduce resource consumption for non-active tabs and w…

> But wouldn't the real test be running both browsers as the active window and comparing those results? No matter what you're doing, all but one of your tabs will be in the background at any given moment.

What about 4 windows, 2 for safari, 2 for FF in windowed mode? But I guess only window can be active at a time.

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> I'd rather we live in a world where customers paid directly for the product and I was the customer (not the product). Out of curiosity, what services and products are you paying for? I'm willing to bet that a vast majority of HN users are still using a @gmail.com email address. And I'm actually in that super small minority that pays for services such as FastMail, Dropbox, Newsblur, 1Password, or YouTube (premium).…

> Out of curiosity, what services and products are you paying for? To be fair you're asking the wrong person. I pay for a ton of products. I pay for IntelliJ which I think is $150 per year. HubSpot which will probably get $1k from me... I pay for Gmail... I think it's $4 per user per month? TeamCity, CircleCI ... NYTimes (yeah, I actually pay). ... but I do think you're right here. I'm actually legitimately curious t…

> 99% of Mozilla's development comes from paid Mozilla engineers.

While this is by and large true, Mozilla does still have a pretty solid base of volunteer contributors. It's nowhere close to what it used to be back in the day when more than half the development was done by volunteers. But there are still serious contributions coming from volunteers every day, and as a long-time employee, it still has a major impact on the feel of Mozilla development work. You won't be ignored or shut down because you're not being paid, if you have an idea for a different way of doing things that works better, it'll be accepted and supported even if it incurs ongoing maintenance, etc. (Well, assuming people decide it's worth the ongoing overhead, of course; I'm just saying that it's common in other supposedly open development organizations to only accept isolated improvements that make core developers' lives easier.)

I do miss the days when external contributors were a much bigger part. It's tough when people need to eat, and the system complexity has risen, making it harder to get started in many areas.

Contributors welcome!

Re: Firefox 70

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post #236

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YouTube music video running in another tab. Should it stop render the video and keep playing the audio? Maybe feasible but it should keep receiving both the video and audio data. Stop all of it? Not what I wish to happen.

The javascript engine and rendering engines are what are generally affected by being backgrounded. So yes, generally the media library will continue receiving the combined video/audio stream and not bother rendering the video frames

Does HTML video need to catch up based on the most recent keyframe?

If they don't render while backgrounded, how do they do that without being noticeable?

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Mozilla fired their CEO, the founder of JS, Brendan Eich, because he made a donation 10 years before to a Christian charity. Many SV people are missing the scope and scale of the impact of having OSS charities engaging in the political campaign – it is renouncing all donations from the other side. It is not their role. Every year I have thousands of dollars that I try to affect to OSS charities, but I’m yet to find a…

Mozilla faced tremendous pressure from the media, Mitchell had no choice but to let him go. The public went on a witch hunt. It's your peers who did this, not Mozilla's chairman.

That seems about right, except for Mitchell's involvement. As I remember it, it was more Brendan's call than Mitchell's. She did not ask for his resignation. At least from what I heard, he decided that the backlash was doing too much damage to Mozilla and stepped down.

Re: Firefox 70

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I’m a little surprised about the two word display specifiers (e.g. display: inline flex). Specifically they say they are the only browser to support it but I feel like I saw this somewhere (maybe in a nightly release of some browser) at least two years ago.

Maybe I just saw a spec or maybe I’m just wrong

Re: Firefox 70

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WebKit also works on other platforms.

You're thinking of Blink. WebKit is pretty exclusive to macOS and iOS these days.

No, Webkit used to be a cross platform renderer which work started on Linux in the first place, so it is definitely not MacOS only.

Re: Firefox 70

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> In supporting browsers (just Firefox at the time of writing), the single keyword values we know and love will map to new two-keyword values

Really neat how FireFox seems to push the web standards forward here, in a world where Google seems to have total control.

Re: Firefox 70

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I noticed that firefox (dev edition) got rid of possibility to disable update notifications. I prefer my browser to be updated from repository rather than by itself. Did anyone has the same issue or found some workaround?

Surely if your package manager installs firefox into /usr or whatever, it's not gonna be able to update itself either way, right?

Yes, distributes packages work differently.

Re: Firefox 70

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Still has serious bugs with certificates that I don't think will ever be fixed.

On Mac, loading all the appropriate DoD certs and trying to log into OWA causes an unrecoverable hang.

Loading only DOD ID SW CA-37 will allow login to numerous sites. However, after closing those tabs, all other sites time out while "Performing a TLS handshake..."

Lastly, quitting Firefox after a PIV/CAC login causes an unrecoverable hang.

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