I look at 8 year automotive loans, and I wonder- who is about to get screwed. People with jobs at gas stations buying new $30k vehicles. Either inflation is about to get bad, and our parents/Grandparents lose big or deflation happens and young people are screwed. Are there any other options?
McKinsey: Half the World’s Banks Too Weak to Survive Downturn
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>For the rest of us debtors...it remains an ongoing disaster Taxpayers didn't pay for bailouts. The Fed did. Taxpayers did make a profit form them, however, since the profits the Fed saw from the bailouts were, by law, handed over to Treasury (except for statutory operating expenses), offsetting taxes. >those who greased the runways for the shareholders with their lost homes Most of those those losing homes did so by…
True, looking forward to blaming a lot of US students for wanting education. While I do think borrowers are partly responsible, I also think there was a strong incentive for lenders to spread loans like candy and they probably de-emphasized the risks. So the correct strategy would have been to take even larger loans and probably bury the money somewhere.
Some perspective:
Under 40% of people get any college at all. Of those, 30% of students graduate with no debt. The remaining average $30k in debt. This is not much debt compared to other things they will buy in life.
Avg starting salary for a college grad is $50k.
Avg new car price is $35k. Some people buy many cars in a lifetime. Median home listing is $279k. ~65% of US is homeowners.
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#74AKA On behalf of our banking customers we're going to be advising that governments get ready to do another bailout.
The amount and duration reporting has been. Originally it was $53 billion planned for a few weeks [2], and now it's over $128 billion [3], lasting into next year.
[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21004068
[2] https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-fed-repo/n-y-fed-awar...
[3] https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/fed-repo-inj...
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> Taxpayers didn't pay for bailouts. The Fed did. The 2+ Trillion dollar expansion of the Fed balance sheet during the crisis costs taxpayers every day that they pay interest on a loan enabled by that 2T+ expansion. Every house that used to be $200K and is now $500K is part of the price people are paying for how the crisis was managed. > But don't just blame bankers. Also blame borrowers defaulting. The core function…
>The 2+ Trillion dollar expansion of the Fed balance sheet during the crisis costs taxpayers every day that they pay interest on a loan enabled by that 2T+ expansion. Taxpayers don't pay interest on Fed assets. You have a fundamental misunderstanding of how monetary policy works. What makes you think your statement true? Did you read it in a explanation of how the Fed works, or did you make it up? >The financializati…
> 'Taxpayers don't pay interest on Fed assets.'
with what I said; 'they pay interest on a loan enabled by that 2T+ expansion' (of Fed assets.) The Fed bought ~1.5-2T of MBS, turning bad loans that would never be repaid - credit that simply never should have been issued - into bank reserves. Those reserves both inflate asset prices and enable the banks to make loans on which interest is paid.
> When the prices stopped climbing, this process stopped.
The price climb - and the influx of less able borrowers - was primarily enabled by securitization.
> And bubbles from irrational people have been happening for millennia too. Does this simplistic tautology allow me to assign all blame to borrowers?
Borrowers can only exist if they've borrowed from lenders. Hence my point about lenders needing to evaluate risk to continue to be lenders.
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2k/hr?????
It's basically therapy for corporate executives, delivered via powerpoint, with a healthy side of blame insurance. And yeah, it's expensive.
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#77Sadly, regular taxpayers will pay the bill. Just like last time.
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#78And if you're a bank, guess who is conveniently standing by ready to fix it for you with an army of $2000 an hour consultants? McKinsey. Same exact scam as the shady mechanic who wants charge you $400 to flush your transmission fluid and convinces you that your car will surely blow up if you don't do it.
… who graduated college three years ago and get 50 of those dollars per hour themselves.
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#79Sadly, regular taxpayers will pay the bill. Just like last time.
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Zimbabwe doesn’t have the US military backing its debt.
So if the economy gets bad its the job of the US military to invade something to get their resources?