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Re: Firefox 70

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Post by ronjouch »

dblohm7 wrote: post #108
ronjouch wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please vote and/or speak up (constructively, no "mee too" comments please) on https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=69687

Go ahead and vote if you wish, but please do not add “me too” comments to our bug tracker.

Thanks for the reminder. I edited my above message to reflect the same sentiment.

Re: Firefox 70

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Post by lordnacho »

chenster wrote: post #64
lordnacho wrote: post #31

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I just tried this. Interestingly I'd left it on v68 and it cooked my MBP, fans all on max immediately. When I updated to 70 it seems to work perfectly. CPU temp in the 40s. Gonna leave it on in the background and see if it suddenly spikes.

The same here. Have you tried with FF add-ons that normally are the culprit for CPU hogging?

Yeah, they're all on. Seems to be fine thus far, and there's an article about what they actually did to fix it, so I'm ready to say it's fixed.

Only minor gripe is userChrome.css seems to not be used now.

Re: Firefox 70

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Post by giancarlostoro »

bzbarsky wrote: post #82
giancarlostoro wrote: post #55

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Some of those updates are to catch up to Chrome's developer tools. If I were in charge of Firefox, I would honestly have them hire a developer or two to focus solely on the Developer Tools. I'm sure there's many things that browser developer tools could do that we have not even scratched the surface of. I prefer Firefox overall, only use Chrome due to manager only looking at my work on Chrome (it will be deployed in…

Firefox has an entire team dedicated to developer tools, fwiw. I'm not sure whether your suggestion was "one or two more, in addition to the 7 or 8 already working on it", or "one or two more, instead of the 0 working on it now"...

I'd happily add more people to the mix yeah, had no concept of how many were working on it currently though, I assumed some people worked on it but not dedicated. As I wrote my comment I realized that kind of tooling is not necessarily easy to work on potentially.

Re: Firefox 70

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Post by samtimalsina »

burtonator wrote: post #116

Firefox + Mozilla are awesome. I still have a Mozilla 1.0 t-shirt from the first release party! I've recently seen a ton of FF fans state that the reason they love Firefox is that it doesn't have ads or track you and preserves your privacy. However, Firefox wouldn't exist without Google and (to a lesser extent, Google Chrome). They make 94% of their revenue via bundling and distribution deals with companies like Goog…

> However, Firefox wouldn't exist without Google and (to a lesser extent, Google Chrome).

Can you elaborate on this? What kind of bundling and distribution deals?

Re: Firefox 70

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Post by otachack »

burtonator wrote: post #116

Firefox + Mozilla are awesome. I still have a Mozilla 1.0 t-shirt from the first release party! I've recently seen a ton of FF fans state that the reason they love Firefox is that it doesn't have ads or track you and preserves your privacy. However, Firefox wouldn't exist without Google and (to a lesser extent, Google Chrome). They make 94% of their revenue via bundling and distribution deals with companies like Goog…

Agree with your points, but piggybacking to post Mozilla's donation page. We can be preemptive and give to them in order to help the cause.

https://donate.mozilla.org/en-US/

Re: Firefox 70

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Post by maximente »

freediver wrote: post #111

I am not a Firefox user but know that matching Webkit performance on macOS is going to be very hard. So just fired a test on my Macbook Air - Safari 13 vs Firefox 70. Opened top 10 links from techmeme. Both windows in background. Firefox 70: Energy use 30-200; CPU 20-25%; Threads 82 Safari 13: Energy use 0.1-5; CPU 2-5%; Threads 11 If this is to celebrate I can only imagine what the things looked like before this rel…

what would be interesting is running with state of the art ad blocking in safari (which IIRC they recently changed) and firefox with ublock origin on multiple domains so as to better approximate advertisement load across the web

i posit that ad blocking is actually a net resource saver, probably not at the level of using safari over firefox but certainly over unprotected firefox

(i am on gnu/linux or else i'd do this myself)

Re: Firefox 70

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Post by the_jeremy »

jeffhuys wrote: post #97

Pinch-to-zooooooooom!!!!!!!!!! Finally. I will definitely try Firefox again for a week or so, and see how it manages, battery-wise, compared to Safari.

I don't see any mention of this. I made some about:config changes before and got pinch zoom working on Firefox 68, but it only zooms 10% for each discrete pinch gesture I make. Did they update it to be better than this?

Re: Firefox 70

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Post by maximente »

mistermann wrote: post #110
pwlb wrote: post #60

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Firefox Sync let's you syncronize Bookmarks, Open tabs, Logins, History, Add-ons and Preferences across devices by logging in once with username password

Can each of those be turned on or off per device, and dont get sneakily turned back on during upgrades?

by way of logging in/out, yes

Re: Firefox 70

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Post by gpm »

otachack wrote: post #125
burtonator wrote: post #116

Firefox + Mozilla are awesome. I still have a Mozilla 1.0 t-shirt from the first release party! I've recently seen a ton of FF fans state that the reason they love Firefox is that it doesn't have ads or track you and preserves your privacy. However, Firefox wouldn't exist without Google and (to a lesser extent, Google Chrome). They make 94% of their revenue via bundling and distribution deals with companies like Goog…

Agree with your points, but piggybacking to post Mozilla's donation page. We can be preemptive and give to them in order to help the cause. https://donate.mozilla.org/en-US/

My understanding of the donations is that they don't go towards supporting firefox development because of how the company/non-profit is structured... is this wrong?

Re: Firefox 70

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Post by munmaek »

freediver wrote: post #111

I am not a Firefox user but know that matching Webkit performance on macOS is going to be very hard. So just fired a test on my Macbook Air - Safari 13 vs Firefox 70. Opened top 10 links from techmeme. Both windows in background. Firefox 70: Energy use 30-200; CPU 20-25%; Threads 82 Safari 13: Energy use 0.1-5; CPU 2-5%; Threads 11 If this is to celebrate I can only imagine what the things looked like before this rel…

Test: open 10 tabs of techmeme.com, on OSX Catalina (10.15 Beta), on a 2015 retina 13" macbook pro.

Firefox: Threads 71, %CPU 2.5. Energy: 0.4. Opening the tabs all at once took up ~68% CPU. Energy went up to 75.

Safari: threads: 8, %CPU: 0.7-2. When opening the tabs: %CPU: 28%. Energy usage: 2.4.

Firefox grew sluggish when opening that many tabs at once. Safari handled it like a champ.

Pretty bleak for firefox.

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