Compared to current Chromium based browsers (I'm using Edge/ium), how does this Firefox release's DevTools compare?
It has the features that Chrome has but the UI and performance is worse.
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#92Wow, blown away by how much better the new password manager is! If they add support for custom fields on each login, this could almost completely replace my need for a 3rd party solution.
Don't you still use a 3rd party solution for app logins on your phone?
Can't speak for Android, but for iOS Firefox has an app which does all the proper hooking into system autofill to be able to fill your passwords browsers/apps.
(There's an Android app, too. I'm just not familiar with Android's affordances for that sort of thing so I can't really comment on how it works.)
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#93Wow, blown away by how much better the new password manager is! If they add support for custom fields on each login, this could almost completely replace my need for a 3rd party solution.
Then what happens when you're on a different browser?
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#94Earlier quoted context omitted.
Would this bring it up to par with safari's power consumption?
I don't know about other usages, but energy consumption while using YouTube is important to me (usually have something playing while I work) so I just did a quick measurement. Safari 13.0.2 versus Firefox 70.0 versus Chrome 77.0 Playing the same YouTube video at the same quality (1080p) and watching Energy Impact in Activity Monitor while the video played, I saw averages of: Safari used 20, Firefox used 45, Chrome us…
You could try a plugin which forces h264 Youtube. Just about anything made in the last decade has mature hardware support for decoding h264, but not necessarily for VP8/9. This may be what's going on here.
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#95Not mentioned in this article (although it's in the Release Notes [1]): the amazing work done regarding the macOS compositor. This should give pretty noticeable speed and battery improvements on Retina Macbooks. [1] https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/70.0/releasenotes/#new
Battery life is my primary concern, and unless they release battery life benchmarks I’d be hard pressed to switch off of Safari.
Last I checked it was looking like they would now be as "good" as Chrome, which is much worse than Safari. Hopefully that improved or will soon improve.
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#96Finally, numeric separators!
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#97Pinch-to-zooooooooom!!!!!!!!!! Finally. I will definitely try Firefox again for a week or so, and see how it manages, battery-wise, compared to Safari.
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#98Earlier quoted context omitted.
Would this bring it up to par with safari's power consumption?
Safari still uses significantly less CPU while decoding video.
Safari does not support vp8 or vp9 when playing youtube, and youtube serves h264 instead. h264 is less efficient in terms of compression ratio (more to download for the same quality), but h264 is decoded in hardware on OSX, and VP8 or VP9 isn't, which explains what you see.
This is why, for example, Safari does not have 4k video on Youtube, while being perfectly capable of playing 4k videos in general.
Depending on the machine, VP9 can be decoded in hardware on Firefox on Windows, but chip support is limited.
All that said, we're working on our video playback performance as we speak, especially on OSX (because it was so bad a few release back), but also in general.
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#99So happy that Firefox is making steady progress. I’m surprised though to see new CSS features so prominently in the announcement. Doesn’t this add unwanted additional fragmentation to browser CSS support? A cosmetic feature like that naively seems better implemented with a library rather than folding it straight into one particular browser, but maybe I’m witnessing the process of text-underline-thickness being cement…
These look standard. Chrome already implements them: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/text-decora...
text-decoration-thickness is the most niche, since the only other implementor is Safari.
That said, yeah, they're all off the level 4 working draft, so they're standards-track at least.
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#100Love Firefox. The philosophy, its snappiness, its many add-ons, the UI. - Glad to have an alternative to Chrome! Keep up the good work, Mozilla & Firefox team.
Glad to have an alternative to Chrome! Many would argue that Chrome is an alternative to Firefox, given that Firefox predates Chrome as the first real viable browser alternative.
Historically, yes, that's true. But these days Chrome has a huge lead in the market compared to every other browser, so FF is the alternative again.