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Re: Elon Musk tweets using SpaceX’s Starlink satellite internet

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I saw something interesting the other day that I had previously missed: Starlink has the potential to provide lower latency around the globe than terrestrial fiber because light travels faster in vacuum than in optical silica fiber. "Delay is Not an Option: Low Latency Routing in Space" https://discovery.ucl.ac.uk/id/eprint/10062262/ http://nrg.cs.ucl.ac.uk/mjh/starlink-draft.pdf "We conclude that a network built in…

I thought I read somewhere that they cancelled the plans to use lasers and were going to use radio instead. But now I can't find anything about it.

They have not cancelled the plans to use lasers, but have delayed the introduction of lasers until "satellite version 2.0", whatever that means.

That is, the initial constellation (my guess, the first 800 satellites) goes up without intersat links and acts as a bent pipe only. Lasers are still very much a plan for the later parts on the constellation, and the laserless satellites will eventually be replaced with ones with the lasers once they age out, but the laser links were simply not ready yet and their spectrum license essentially forces them to put the birds up on as quick a schedule as they can.

The laserless sats will not use radio to communicate with each other, but rather will use it to communicate with customers and fixed earth stations.

Re: Elon Musk tweets using SpaceX’s Starlink satellite internet

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They just launched the first couple satillites. Its all internal testing on non-finished hardware as of right now. Far away from an beta.

Which means the root password is probably still “admin” :)

Login "elon", password "musk"

Re: Elon Musk tweets using SpaceX’s Starlink satellite internet

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I thought I read somewhere that they cancelled the plans to use lasers and were going to use radio instead. But now I can't find anything about it.

Radio and light have (for the purposes of this comparison) the same speed in vacuum.

They don't have FCC licensing for the satellites to communicate with each other using radio, the radio links are satground only.

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How is the censorship going to work with Starlink? Twitter is heavily censored in many countries like Turkey. Other countries censor other things, be it on political, commercial or "criminal" grounds. Can someone explain a bit on these issues? Is the global internet going to be governed on US laws if Starlink becomes a thing?

Radio jamming will work in case a particular govt is capable enough. In other cases just a simple imports and use ban on such devices without a license.

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That doesn't help if you're transmitting information from Shanghai Exchanges to London trying to gain first mover advantage.

Why would you do that?

Because there are billions of dollars/year of money in it.

Things that happen outside New York have an impact on stock prices in New York. Much of HFT is essentially companies racing each other to be the very first to act on external news/stock movements.

Re: Elon Musk tweets using SpaceX’s Starlink satellite internet

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Has a pentest been performed on this network? How does one enter into an early beta of it?

They just launched the first couple satillites. Its all internal testing on non-finished hardware as of right now. Far away from an beta.

Ah ok thx. At some point in the future, I would like to move further into the sticks and go mostly off-grid, but I would still like internet. It needs to be low latency (ssh, games, voice, etc) and high throughput. I am hoping that this network can meet those needs. Otherwise I have to be close enough to a city for cable modems...

Re: Elon Musk tweets using SpaceX’s Starlink satellite internet

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How is the censorship going to work with Starlink? Twitter is heavily censored in many countries like Turkey. Other countries censor other things, be it on political, commercial or "criminal" grounds. Can someone explain a bit on these issues? Is the global internet going to be governed on US laws if Starlink becomes a thing?

My guess is they say "not our problem".

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That doesn't help if you're transmitting information from Shanghai Exchanges to London trying to gain first mover advantage.

Why would you do that?

Because when something happens in China companies in the UK and the US that have supply chains there (almost everybody) will be affected.
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