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Latest Firefox Brings Privacy Protections Front and Center

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Re: Latest Firefox Brings Privacy Protections Front and Center

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Post by dwild »

pitaj wrote: post #51
svnpenn wrote: post #43

Honestly its getting out of hand. I have everything blocked I can think of [1], and even browsing in private mode, I still sometimes get the "recommended for you" on YouTube. Stop invading my privacy. [1] https://cup.github.io/rosso/youtube

It's probably just using your IP address.

Yeah that's probably that. I always laugh when I see an ads for me on any of my colleague computer. if they use that on ads, they certainly use it on Youtube.

I also gets recommendation for videos that my SO watches even though we don't use the same computer. It's rare but it happens.

Re: Latest Firefox Brings Privacy Protections Front and Center

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Post by sp332 »

zelly wrote: post #42
lukebitts wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What are those technical reasons?

JavaScript engine optimization Devtools Every benchmark: https://arewefastyet.com/linux64/overview?numDays=365 Anecdotally, Firefox uses a lot more CPU, memory, and battery. Makes sense since the JS engine is so much worse. In this era the browser is just a VM for JavaScript.

Your benchmark page shows FF winning 29 benchmarks and Chrome winning 14.

Re: Latest Firefox Brings Privacy Protections Front and Center

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Post by lotsofpulp »

re4ctor wrote: post #49
dmortin wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Why spend money optimizing for a browser that doesn't generate revenue? Maybe sites will move to a model that you'll be offered to pay for their services if you block trackers. So you'll have a choice of paying with your data or paying with your money. Either way someone has to foot the bill at the end. I guess in this case most users will let trackers work instead of paying.

That then gets into the ethics of should privacy only be for the wealthy

And that would get into the ethics of not allowing non wealthy people to pay with their data.

Re: Latest Firefox Brings Privacy Protections Front and Center

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Post by mrmonkeyman »

re4ctor wrote: post #49
dmortin wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Why spend money optimizing for a browser that doesn't generate revenue? Maybe sites will move to a model that you'll be offered to pay for their services if you block trackers. So you'll have a choice of paying with your data or paying with your money. Either way someone has to foot the bill at the end. I guess in this case most users will let trackers work instead of paying.

That then gets into the ethics of should privacy only be for the wealthy

Paying 2 dollars is not for the "wealthy". Nice try.

Re: Latest Firefox Brings Privacy Protections Front and Center

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Post by dylan604 »

alexfromapex wrote: post #10

The new weapon to fight back against the extreme invasion of privacy is exposing the companies and making them accountable. I love this along with the bluetooth warnings on iOS 13.

I never realized how many apps were trying to use bluetooth until these new notifications started to pop up. I appreciate this update as well.

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Post by dessant »

vezycash wrote: post #48
rcMgD2BwE72F wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The more I protect my personal data (hi, GDPR!), the more websites are adding recaptacha to all their pages. Blocking trackers makes Google suspicious, so they're adding more and more recaptcha challenges to let me pass their tests, sometimes 5 to 10 in a row. I'm now working for Google's IA for free just to be able to make purchases online, access some services that I already paid for, or filling in support request…

Use Buster captha solver addon

Thanks for recommending Buster (author here), but I think the right solution is to encourage people to stand up against Google's abuse, especially because they are working on making reCAPTCHA even more pervasive an inescapable.

The recommended way of integrating reCAPTCHA v3 is to load it on every page of your site, not just on pages with forms. Given the popularity of this service, reCAPTCHA v3 is set to become a browsing history and behavioral data collector on a global scale.

Re: Latest Firefox Brings Privacy Protections Front and Center

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Post by mrlala »

svnpenn wrote: post #43

Honestly its getting out of hand. I have everything blocked I can think of [1], and even browsing in private mode, I still sometimes get the "recommended for you" on YouTube. Stop invading my privacy. [1] https://cup.github.io/rosso/youtube

Oh no, you are getting video recommendations which might be helpful!

If you want them to "stop invading your privacy", maybe just stop using a "free" service?

Re: Latest Firefox Brings Privacy Protections Front and Center

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Post by Spivak »

chmod775 wrote: post #52
jakemal wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are there more ethical platforms that don't get blocked by default for Firefox users?

Self-hosted analytics like Matomo for instance. https://github.com/matomo-org/matomo

Which do get blocked since they're still trackers. The protection isn't just against 3rd party trackers.

And if you obfuscate your Matomo client script to get around the user's preference for trackers you're not being very ethical.

Re: Latest Firefox Brings Privacy Protections Front and Center

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Post by bobviolier »

akerro wrote: post #16
dajonker wrote: post #2

I see one risk for Firefox: if they block all trackers, e.g. Google Analytics, then it would appear to people viewing browser statistics in Google Analytics that no-one is using Firefox, and thus the developers will be told they don't need to test anything on Firefox.

I used to have piwik instead GA 2-5 years ago, according to piwik my website had 23% more visitors than on GA. https://matomo.org/

I think one of the things that GA is doing is actively removing bots visits because they skew country/browser/etc. data. Maybe Matomo is not doing that (so well)? Another thing is that people blocking GA trackers will also not show up in GA, but will (probably) show up Matomo.

Re: Latest Firefox Brings Privacy Protections Front and Center

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Post by c3534l »

svnpenn wrote: post #43

Honestly its getting out of hand. I have everything blocked I can think of [1], and even browsing in private mode, I still sometimes get the "recommended for you" on YouTube. Stop invading my privacy. [1] https://cup.github.io/rosso/youtube

I looked up some DevOps stuff on reddit through a proxy with adblockers in private mode and all of a sudden my front page was filled with posts about depression, men asking advice about how to talk to women, and advice about getting a job and moving out of your parents house. These were based on sessions cookies, but I was still kinda offended it pegged me as a sad loser just because I wanted to know more about NGINX and Heroku.
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