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Re: Pizza Hut’s First Website

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Post by segfaultbuserr »

QualityReboot wrote: post #57
belltaco wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_Cruz_Operation

See also https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCO%E2%80%93Linux_disputes

It's important to clarify that the SCO Group in the Linux disputes was not the original Santa Cruz Operation, Santa Cruz Operation sold all Unix business to Caldera Systems in 2001, and it was Caldera Systems's CEO who started a bunch of lawsuits, suing everyone, Red Hat, and various Linux users, they even sued Novell for the Unix trademark, and obviously got a notorious reputation and turned SCO into a dirty world. And of course, it almost lost all cases and turned SCO as a company into an utter piece of garbage.

Seriously, what was the CEO thinking about?! I guess Caldera Systems purchased SCO and they suddenly found the days of commercial proprietary Unix were ending and the purchase was a mistake, and this is how they started its assaults.

Unlike the SCO Group, the original SCO didn't have such a bad reputation. Quite a few hackers in the Unix world worked with the original SCO. Also it used to hold a Unix conference, speakers included Linus Torvalds.

Re: Pizza Hut’s First Website

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Post by segfaultbuserr »

axaxs wrote: post #27
nodesocket wrote: post #12

Who is The Santa Cruz Operation®?

SCO is synonymous with evil old school unix. A lot of mainframes ran it, and my first job was dealing with some old SCO/ATT bastardized system. Interestingly enough, I never bothered to know what SCO stood for until now.

> SCO is synonymous with evil old school unix.

The full name Santa Cruz Operation only refers to the original SCO company (which sold itself in 2001), not the SCO Group which purchased SCO and turned its name into a dirty word. Unlike the SCO Group, the original SCO was old-school commercial Unix, but it didn't have such a bad reputation. Quite a few hackers in the Unix world worked with the original SCO.

Re: Pizza Hut’s First Website

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Post by throwaway_law »

SilasX wrote: post #75
codeulike wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's interesting that the article suggests that making a phone call would be preferable to ordering online. There's been quite a culture change since then; I'll do anything to avoid having to make a phone call.

And yet there was a thread recently where numerous commenters rolled their eyes at the need for accessibility for the blind on the web, because “Can’t you just call?” https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21188594 For even more irony, Pizza Hut’s and Domino’s pages from the mid-90s are more blind-accessible than the meth-addled versions of today. We’ve somehow regressed.

>Pizza Hut’s and Domino’s pages from the mid-90s are more blind-accessible than the meth-addled versions of today. We’ve somehow regressed.

Google wasn't dictating how websites are developed/optimized back then.

Re: Pizza Hut’s First Website

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Post by coldpie »

macintux wrote: post #68

At my university, someone did a demo of what ordering a pizza would look like online, using Pizza Hut's site as an example, sometime in 1994-95. I remember thinking to myself that was a ridiculous idea, because all of the stores would have to be wired up to the Internet, and who would do that? That ignored, of course, the possibility that a central location could take the orders and communicate them to the individual…

> That ignored, of course, the possibility that a central location could take the orders and communicate them to the individual stores (which is how it worked for phone ordering at one point, maybe even today)

Wait, really? I worked in several pizza restaurants around the early 2000s and we always took the phone calls directly. It was very common to get questions about stuff like directions and opening hours, or weird special requests, which I can't imagine working very well with a remote call center setup. I don't want to doubt your claim, I'm just surprised to hear it.

Re: Pizza Hut’s First Website

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Post by coldpie »

mchaver wrote: post #48

Let's collect all the internet's historical pizza moments. I've collected a few from the comments here and added a few. - 1990, Don Hopkins uses the PizzaTool to fax a pizza order. - 1992, Snow Crash is published. Readers imagine interconnected virtual worlds and action packed pizza delivery. Often quoted book in regards to internet, MMORPGs and pizza. - 1994, Pizza Hut's Pizza Net allows users in Santa Cruz to order…

2005, Everquest adds /pizza to begin the pizza ordering process from in-game http://www.nbcnews.com/id/7020132/ns/technology_and_science-...

Re: Pizza Hut’s First Website

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Post by excalibur »

jeffwass wrote: post #33
tgtweak wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Amusingly, the date on this article and the fact it still loads today. https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1994-08-25-fi-31168-...

Wow, very prescient amazing article! Quote near beginning to put things in context of where we were back in 1994 : “ To participate in the pilot, hungry Santa Cruzers need computers with Internet access and a version of an Internet interface program called Mosaic .” But other interesting predictions: “Instead of simply letting people order a pizza, why not let them design it as well? Instead of showing an ordinary me…

Fun fact: Googling "mosaic" today returns a page full of results about art. Even if you search for "mosaic software", you get a bunch of software for creating mosaics. If you want to read about Mosaic today, you need to already know that it's a browser.

Re: Pizza Hut’s First Website

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Post by tinus_hn »

jeffwass wrote: post #33
tgtweak wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Amusingly, the date on this article and the fact it still loads today. https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1994-08-25-fi-31168-...

Wow, very prescient amazing article! Quote near beginning to put things in context of where we were back in 1994 : “ To participate in the pilot, hungry Santa Cruzers need computers with Internet access and a version of an Internet interface program called Mosaic .” But other interesting predictions: “Instead of simply letting people order a pizza, why not let them design it as well? Instead of showing an ordinary me…

The code name for Netscape was Mozilla, the ‘Mosaic killer’

Re: Pizza Hut’s First Website

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Post by macintux »

coldpie wrote: post #84
macintux wrote: post #68

At my university, someone did a demo of what ordering a pizza would look like online, using Pizza Hut's site as an example, sometime in 1994-95. I remember thinking to myself that was a ridiculous idea, because all of the stores would have to be wired up to the Internet, and who would do that? That ignored, of course, the possibility that a central location could take the orders and communicate them to the individual…

> That ignored, of course, the possibility that a central location could take the orders and communicate them to the individual stores (which is how it worked for phone ordering at one point, maybe even today) Wait, really? I worked in several pizza restaurants around the early 2000s and we always took the phone calls directly. It was very common to get questions about stuff like directions and opening hours, or weir…

The sad part of my failed prognostication was that I had worked as a Pizza Hut delivery driver a few years previously and that’s exactly what they did.

People called a central dispatch and we received printouts of the orders. We would call the office to let them know our current projected delivery times, but other questions they could already answer.

Re: Pizza Hut’s First Website

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Post by AnIdiotOnTheNet »

throwaway_law wrote: post #83
SilasX wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And yet there was a thread recently where numerous commenters rolled their eyes at the need for accessibility for the blind on the web, because “Can’t you just call?” https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21188594 For even more irony, Pizza Hut’s and Domino’s pages from the mid-90s are more blind-accessible than the meth-addled versions of today. We’ve somehow regressed.

>Pizza Hut’s and Domino’s pages from the mid-90s are more blind-accessible than the meth-addled versions of today. We’ve somehow regressed. Google wasn't dictating how websites are developed/optimized back then.

Sure, blame Google instead of lazy developers who can't be bothered to give a damn about anyone's time but their own.
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