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Trains reach record speed in Beijing-Zhangjiakou test run

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Re: Trains reach record speed in Beijing-Zhangjiakou test run

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When I travelled to China for the first time I've spent one month there travelling across the entire country via their highspeed train network. It's amazing, all major places are so well connected and the trains are really cheap, offer 1st, 2nd, 3rd and business class acommodating all various budgets and comfort styles and they run really smoothly and are amazingly on time! After departure it doesn't take more than a…

Even with the current train connections, it would be a great improvement to book a single ticket for multi-country journeys. Right now, I need a ticket for Germany, France and Spain to get to Barcelona. If any of the trains runs late and I miss a train, I'd have to buy a new ticket for the connecting train. So a single booking agency with guaranteed connecting trains would be great.

Within the EU Rail team network, missed connections are largely covered:

http://www.railteam.eu/en/for-your-journey/network-map/

Unfortunately the network seems to be mostly Belgium, France German, the Netherlands, with egress into Italy, Spain and the UK.

Re: Trains reach record speed in Beijing-Zhangjiakou test run

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post #17

When I travelled to China for the first time I've spent one month there travelling across the entire country via their highspeed train network. It's amazing, all major places are so well connected and the trains are really cheap, offer 1st, 2nd, 3rd and business class acommodating all various budgets and comfort styles and they run really smoothly and are amazingly on time! After departure it doesn't take more than a…

Even with the current train connections, it would be a great improvement to book a single ticket for multi-country journeys. Right now, I need a ticket for Germany, France and Spain to get to Barcelona. If any of the trains runs late and I miss a train, I'd have to buy a new ticket for the connecting train. So a single booking agency with guaranteed connecting trains would be great.

I thought you could buy tickets from Germany to e.g. Barcelona with Deutsche Bahn? The "only" problems are that one needs to visit a physical office of theirs as online booking is not possible and you may pay a lot more than buying individual cheap tickets with the operators.

Re: Trains reach record speed in Beijing-Zhangjiakou test run

#23

When I travelled to China for the first time I've spent one month there travelling across the entire country via their highspeed train network. It's amazing, all major places are so well connected and the trains are really cheap, offer 1st, 2nd, 3rd and business class acommodating all various budgets and comfort styles and they run really smoothly and are amazingly on time! After departure it doesn't take more than a…

It doesn't make much sense to hook up Europe the same way because the population density in most parts of the map is no where close to China.

Compare it with India and you will see the same number of stations/trains/bus routes all subsidized and dirt cheap (compared to Europe), but far below in any other standard (naturally because they are poorer).

Re: Trains reach record speed in Beijing-Zhangjiakou test run

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When I travelled to China for the first time I've spent one month there travelling across the entire country via their highspeed train network. It's amazing, all major places are so well connected and the trains are really cheap, offer 1st, 2nd, 3rd and business class acommodating all various budgets and comfort styles and they run really smoothly and are amazingly on time! After departure it doesn't take more than a…

Having lived and worked in China for several years recently, and continuing to regularly visit, I agree with almost everything you said except for the "huge efforts in creating a fair [...] system for everyone". I saw no evidence of any such effort to create a fair system. For example, China's rule of law is effectively driven by power and connections, not on evidence and fairness, and the effect of this extends throughout society, though I can understand that a traveler would probably not encounter this much, if at all.

Re: Trains reach record speed in Beijing-Zhangjiakou test run

#25
post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even with the current train connections, it would be a great improvement to book a single ticket for multi-country journeys. Right now, I need a ticket for Germany, France and Spain to get to Barcelona. If any of the trains runs late and I miss a train, I'd have to buy a new ticket for the connecting train. So a single booking agency with guaranteed connecting trains would be great.

I thought you could buy tickets from Germany to e.g. Barcelona with Deutsche Bahn? The "only" problems are that one needs to visit a physical office of theirs as online booking is not possible and you may pay a lot more than buying individual cheap tickets with the operators.

TGV tickets are sold there, but separately - without any liability for missed connections.

Re: Trains reach record speed in Beijing-Zhangjiakou test run

#26

When I travelled to China for the first time I've spent one month there travelling across the entire country via their highspeed train network. It's amazing, all major places are so well connected and the trains are really cheap, offer 1st, 2nd, 3rd and business class acommodating all various budgets and comfort styles and they run really smoothly and are amazingly on time! After departure it doesn't take more than a…

it's impressive. Major improvement would be if all travelers in chinese trains would use headphones if they want to listen music or play games. Personally I love silence in Japanese trains - everybody is polite and silent.

Polite and silent is good, but it is awful if you end up in a smoking carriage, they are horrible. I think they will be going away soon though.

Re: Trains reach record speed in Beijing-Zhangjiakou test run

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post #17

When I travelled to China for the first time I've spent one month there travelling across the entire country via their highspeed train network. It's amazing, all major places are so well connected and the trains are really cheap, offer 1st, 2nd, 3rd and business class acommodating all various budgets and comfort styles and they run really smoothly and are amazingly on time! After departure it doesn't take more than a…

Even with the current train connections, it would be a great improvement to book a single ticket for multi-country journeys. Right now, I need a ticket for Germany, France and Spain to get to Barcelona. If any of the trains runs late and I miss a train, I'd have to buy a new ticket for the connecting train. So a single booking agency with guaranteed connecting trains would be great.

There’s at least some single ticketing in Europe - we bought a ticket from the UK to the south of Germany this summer & it was a single ticket changing in Brussels and Frankfurt, with automatic carry over for missed connections caused by train delays.

Re: Trains reach record speed in Beijing-Zhangjiakou test run

#28
post #23

When I travelled to China for the first time I've spent one month there travelling across the entire country via their highspeed train network. It's amazing, all major places are so well connected and the trains are really cheap, offer 1st, 2nd, 3rd and business class acommodating all various budgets and comfort styles and they run really smoothly and are amazingly on time! After departure it doesn't take more than a…

It doesn't make much sense to hook up Europe the same way because the population density in most parts of the map is no where close to China. Compare it with India and you will see the same number of stations/trains/bus routes all subsidized and dirt cheap (compared to Europe), but far below in any other standard (naturally because they are poorer).

First class in the best long-distance Indian trains is really quite comfortable. Beds are standard, whereas sleeper trains are disappearing in Europe, and you can use an app to order a meal for a certain time, which will be brought on board to you from a nearby restaurant at the appropriate station!

Re: Trains reach record speed in Beijing-Zhangjiakou test run

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post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I thought you could buy tickets from Germany to e.g. Barcelona with Deutsche Bahn? The "only" problems are that one needs to visit a physical office of theirs as online booking is not possible and you may pay a lot more than buying individual cheap tickets with the operators.

TGV tickets are sold there, but separately - without any liability for missed connections.

I thought EU Rail Team sorted out the missed connections issue? Germany through France to Spain should be covered.

Re: Trains reach record speed in Beijing-Zhangjiakou test run

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When I travelled to China for the first time I've spent one month there travelling across the entire country via their highspeed train network. It's amazing, all major places are so well connected and the trains are really cheap, offer 1st, 2nd, 3rd and business class acommodating all various budgets and comfort styles and they run really smoothly and are amazingly on time! After departure it doesn't take more than a…

Having lived and worked in China for several years recently, and continuing to regularly visit, I agree with almost everything you said except for the "huge efforts in creating a fair [...] system for everyone". I saw no evidence of any such effort to create a fair system. For example, China's rule of law is effectively driven by power and connections, not on evidence and fairness, and the effect of this extends thro…

Not sure why you're getting downvoted, I guess the CCCP astroturfers are out in force today.
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