But is it possible that actually the judge is prepared to deny the extradition, and cannot say anything just yet because of the secret duty? If she thinks all of that is torture for Assange, maybe she is right to want it to end as soon as possible, especially if she already has taken her decision.
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#12I think it is important to look at this with the lens of objectivity: Accusations that Assange is actively being not just harassed but outright tortured to the point where he "might not survive the proceedings" in jail... ... to claims that "members of the US Government" were there and "controlling procedures" and claims that the judge had been instructed what to say: > possibly she had not properly memorised what Le…
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What is your purpose here? To defend the actions of the UK court, which is clearly being corrupted by following direction from US agents?
Or to open the door for the, very definite Assange-haters, to have a way around the argument that Assange is not getting a fair trial, that this case is a total farce, and that anyone who stands up to the military-industrial-pharmaceutical complex is 'an enemy of the West'?
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#13Public reading group of the wikileaks documents, anyone?
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#14How is it possible there is not yet a huge mob gathering near the court and threatening to burn everything. Because, this is literally revolting. How many people support that? And how many people are disgusted by that? Would nobody regret doing nothing?
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#16"Extradition shall not be granted if the offense for which extradition is requested is a political offense." If an American journalist in UK is publishing Chinese military secrets, he will not be extradited to China. If an Australian journalist in UK is publishing American military secrets, will he be extradited to America? This is the question now...
And so that also is a factor.
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#17I think it is important to look at this with the lens of objectivity: Accusations that Assange is actively being not just harassed but outright tortured to the point where he "might not survive the proceedings" in jail... ... to claims that "members of the US Government" were there and "controlling procedures" and claims that the judge had been instructed what to say: > possibly she had not properly memorised what Le…
>objectivity + >considered within the spectrum What is your purpose here? To defend the actions of the UK court, which is clearly being corrupted by following direction from US agents? Or to open the door for the, very definite Assange-haters, to have a way around the argument that Assange is not getting a fair trial, that this case is a total farce , and that anyone who stands up to the military-industrial-pharmaceu…
Very article linked in the original post talks about concerns for Assange's health, saying he has been in the medical ward in jail.
Yet apparently it's not at all possible that he is on medications to help with his mental state (which would explain - though in this case note that I would entirely agree that the use of such medication would interfere with his "ability to understand" - his demeanor as being 'flat' and 'slow' and 'confused'), and instead apparently a foregone conclusion to assume that he is being physically and mentally subjected to "extreme torture".
> anyone who stands up to the military-industrial-pharmaceutical complex is 'an enemy of the West'?
Please. You'd be very much mistaken to think I have -any- sympathy for the "military-industrial-pharmaceutical complex", as even a cursory reading of my comments on issues of health insurance in the US, or military interventions would show.
Believe it or not, it is possible to think that Assange has committed multiple crimes for less than noble reasons in amongst the good he has done, without being an agent for the state, deep or otherwise.
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#19How is it possible there is not yet a huge mob gathering near the court and threatening to burn everything. Because, this is literally revolting. How many people support that? And how many people are disgusted by that? Would nobody regret doing nothing?
I assume if there were a mob of assange supporters in the UK they would have mobbed near the Ecuadorian embassy and secreted him out of England.
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#20"Extradition shall not be granted if the offense for which extradition is requested is a political offense." If an American journalist in UK is publishing Chinese military secrets, he will not be extradited to China. If an Australian journalist in UK is publishing American military secrets, will he be extradited to America? This is the question now...
Many would argue that Assange isn't a journalist. And so that also is a factor.