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Mac OS Catalina: more trouble than it’s worth

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Re: Mac OS Catalina: more trouble than it’s worth

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Post by torben-friis »

vinay_ys wrote: post #232

I have been using Macs to manage my digital life (personal photos, files, videos, music, notes, documents etc) since Tiger/Leopard days and have been mostly happy with the experience. But I feel now more than ever before that my decade and half old collection is on shaky ground and at risk of being lost with any given OS upgrade. Lost because of file system or crypto or some such software deprecation/compatibility bu…

I think it's about diversifying. The general rule is 3 copies of your data in different places - for me personally, I keep important data in an external drive at home, another in an external drive at my parent's house (updated less frequently for obvious reasons) and an account in the cloud with a third one.

Funnily enough, the cloud account is the one that worries me the most. The data I want to keep includes some indie movies and music that I fear might disappear from the internet (like mixtapes from very indie local groups I listened as a teenager that nobody cares about) and I fear the whole account might be suspended if at some point they set up a copyright filter or something.

Re: Mac OS Catalina: more trouble than it’s worth

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Post by goatinaboat »

mihaaly wrote: post #207
jwr wrote: post #184

I fully agree with the author, and I am also worried about how Apple treats its users. And I am also an abandoned Aperture user, with huge libraries full of organized albums with non-destructive edits. I still do not know what to do about that. Having read most of the comments, I got the impression that you could correlate them with age. Younger people are all "Catalina works for me! Progress! Change is necessary! Wh…

In my young ages I was hungry for new technology, learning and adapting the progress, experimenting. Nowadays I am for something that works and can be used for what I need. Apple is good in the first, and gives no f* about the second. Their products - including hardware - is for the young. I think I am going to accept that and 'adapt mindset' to this premise as an ultimate step of not 'resisting change'. (I already g…

Their products - including hardware - is for the young.

I don’t think that’s it.

Once upon a time a Rolex was a serious tool for professional pilots and divers but now it’s a status symbol. It still basically tells the time but no one buys it for that.

Once upon a time a Mac...

Re: Mac OS Catalina: more trouble than it’s worth

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Post by close04 »

deepGem wrote: post #230
rimliu wrote: post #196

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I doubt you could count me someone from the younger generation. My experience with computers started with DOS. I Have been Mac user since 2006. Catalina works fine for me. I was also Aperture user. And then Lightroom user. And now I am Capture One user.

Ditto. Catalina is working fine for me too. Mac user since 2006, I think the first intel chips. It's definitely not a noticable change. The only such change was the upgrade to Snow Leopard. That was a 'wow' change. This is more like a 'meh' change. I haven't tried the iPad sharing thing yet, not too excited by that either. What I have noticed is that Apple hardware is highly inconsistent these days. I think it's a fu…

I have used Macs for quite some time now, mostly as secondary machine. PowerMac G4, Quad G5, first Intel aluminum iMac, 2013 iMac (and a few others occasionally in between), and basically all the OS versions up to and including Mojave. That's where I stopped and moved away from Macs (at least for the time being). Not because they're bad but because I can't find a compelling reason to keep using it, it just steered away from what I considered a good match with my preferences and use cases. Still very much enjoy the iPhone and iPad. Just no room for the Mac.

I guess my point is something doesn't have to be "good OR bad" for some people to like it and others to dislike it. Pretty sure it can be both at the same time, depending on where you're looking from.

Re: Mac OS Catalina: more trouble than it’s worth

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Post by drcharris »

torben-friis wrote: post #241
vinay_ys wrote: post #232

I have been using Macs to manage my digital life (personal photos, files, videos, music, notes, documents etc) since Tiger/Leopard days and have been mostly happy with the experience. But I feel now more than ever before that my decade and half old collection is on shaky ground and at risk of being lost with any given OS upgrade. Lost because of file system or crypto or some such software deprecation/compatibility bu…

I think it's about diversifying. The general rule is 3 copies of your data in different places - for me personally, I keep important data in an external drive at home, another in an external drive at my parent's house (updated less frequently for obvious reasons) and an account in the cloud with a third one. Funnily enough, the cloud account is the one that worries me the most. The data I want to keep includes some i…

Privacy from the vendor, for cloud backups, is barely addressed by most of the cloud storage providers. I find the best solution is to - like many comments here about photo and music storage - stick to older more stable standards that aren't about trying to sell you services.

In my case that means a chunk of SFTP-based storage, and rclone to make that storage encrypted at-rest.

Re: Mac OS Catalina: more trouble than it’s worth

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Post by riffraff »

Pokepokalypse wrote: post #183
TheSpiceIsLife wrote: post #150

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I got to say, my Windows 10 PC at work, with an 8 year old CPU, has been rock fucking solid . So has my 2013 MBPr at home.

Seems to me 2013 was the real sweet-spot for MBP. I still use mine almost every single day. It's a beast, and has been very reliable. Keyboard is WAY nicer to type on than the current generation. It's a little thicker and heavier, and lacks USB-c ports, but it's still damn fine.

my 2013MBP is still working fine and awesome. But I think 2015MBP is also fine, the keyboard is a little bit thinner but I like it anyway. It's a far cry from the following generations with throw-away keyboards.

Re: Mac OS Catalina: more trouble than it’s worth

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Post by Jaruzel »

berberous wrote: post #144
morrick wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am the author, and I may be guilty of writing an extremely long blog post; but judging by your response, you didn't bother to read it that thoroughly. The new layout in Catalina's Mail.app is actually my smallest complaint. I don't like change when it unnecessarily breaks things that used to work just fine. I don't like change when it is haphazardly imposed on a yearly basis by a company which has clearly stopped c…

Alternative possibility: you just got old. In all seriousness, older people are more opposed to UI and other types of change.

> In all seriousness, older people are more opposed to UI and other types of change.

It's not that. We just have more experience of Change, and know that Change Without Purpose rarely provides any benefit.

Re: Mac OS Catalina: more trouble than it’s worth

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Post by ajscanlan »

rimliu wrote: post #196
jwr wrote: post #184

I fully agree with the author, and I am also worried about how Apple treats its users. And I am also an abandoned Aperture user, with huge libraries full of organized albums with non-destructive edits. I still do not know what to do about that. Having read most of the comments, I got the impression that you could correlate them with age. Younger people are all "Catalina works for me! Progress! Change is necessary! Wh…

I doubt you could count me someone from the younger generation. My experience with computers started with DOS. I Have been Mac user since 2006. Catalina works fine for me. I was also Aperture user. And then Lightroom user. And now I am Capture One user.

Yeah I'm a younger generation and I believe macOS and Apple's software in general has gotten worse and worse.

I've wasted hours this week wrestling with issues in Xcode 11 and the command line tools because of bugs in Apple's code.

The bluetooth on my MBP2015 constantly drops, requiring a full restart in order to work again. Apps run slow whenever I have multiple monitors attached.

And don't get me started on the MBP2018 hardware, that damn keyboard keeps sticking.

I am not impressed with Apple's recent offerings.

Re: Mac OS Catalina: more trouble than it’s worth

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Post by toyg »

namesbc wrote: post #67

I have too many 32bit games that will never be updated to 64bit. For the first time in 18 years, I am not going to upgrade to the latest mac os. Apple orchestrated a much smoother transition from OS 9 to OS X and RISC to x84 than from 32bit to 64bit.

Same here. It’s pretty shameful how the richest company on the planet cannot be bothered to spend a little money on supporting backward compatibility, while everybody else does just fine. Even not-for-profit Linux projects do. This decision simply cannot be justified.

It’s extremely disappointing. Apple just ensured my next machine will run Windows.

Re: Mac OS Catalina: more trouble than it’s worth

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Post by steeleduncan »

jwr wrote: post #184

I fully agree with the author, and I am also worried about how Apple treats its users. And I am also an abandoned Aperture user, with huge libraries full of organized albums with non-destructive edits. I still do not know what to do about that. Having read most of the comments, I got the impression that you could correlate them with age. Younger people are all "Catalina works for me! Progress! Change is necessary! Wh…

I don't fully agree, but the following really resonated

> Apple has more or less always said "Jump!" and users and developers have always been expected to reply, "How high?" That attitude, We know what’s best for you, was tolerable — at times even welcome — when it was crystal clear that Apple really knew what was best.

Aside from the bugs, which I'm sure will get resolved in updates, Catalina takes a lot more than it gives.

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