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Re: Fashion industry emits more carbon than flights and maritime shipping combined

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Post by baot »

hnick wrote: post #175
meerita wrote: post #101

To me men (not all 100%, the majority) are stoic: few garments, the necessary. How many of you are the opposite to this? My GF is a machine of buying clothes. Her friends too. I don't see my friends buying that much each month. When I go to a shopping center the majority of stores are women oriented, the entire fashion industry is run for them to ludicrous levels.

I do not and never will understand fashion. I understand the whole speech in The Devil Wears Prada (that the things we all wear were once the trendsetters, just like the tech in luxury cars trickling down) but I just don't get it. Even when someone buys me something I tend to just pick a favourite and stick to it. I have a few pairs of shoes but pretty much just wear one unless the occasion says I shouldn't. And then…

Gaming as a hobby is no more rational than fashion.

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Post by Nasrudith »

ip26 wrote: post #221
TylerE wrote: post #199

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I don't really believe that as in many places you're starting to see multi-level facilities with as many as 5-6 layers of units. That ain't cinderblocks.

Alright, then perhaps I am wrong (or out of date). I'd not seen nor heard of these six story high facilities, my lord.

I have seen those only heading into cities near the outskirts. I also didn't get why they weren't apartments.

Re: Fashion industry emits more carbon than flights and maritime shipping combined

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Post by WA »

Causalityl wrote: post #204
squeaky-clean wrote: post #166

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It's also very random whether you'll find what you're looking for. You're just not going to find a $300 retail pair of jeans in a thrift store on your first outing. And even when you do, odds are they won't be in your size. I live in Brooklyn and go thrifting a lot, mostly because it's a fun activity and because you find things you wouldn't normally think to look for. But 9/10 times I'm leaving with nothing. And for…

I don't understand how you'd even go about making a $300 pair of jeans. Are they a special material that's impervious to rain but breathes like cotton? Are they extra tough so you'll never wear holes in them? Some kind of fancy dye that never fades in the wash? Are you buying clothes from Sharper Image?

Yeah it's weird. But there are t-shirts where it's understandable. For example, there's a t-shirt brand called wijld (in Europe), which:

- produce shirts in the EU and not in countries with child labor

- use 60%+ wood fibers for their shirts (which is more expensive, but ecologically better)

- feel great with high quality

So, while 30 bucks for a t-shirt seem expensive when you can get others for 5-10 bucks, they actually are better in many ways.

Of course, this isn't true for most expensive designer stuff ;)

Re: Fashion industry emits more carbon than flights and maritime shipping combined

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Post by Nasrudith »

TheRealPomax wrote: post #217
DesiLurker wrote: post #167

this is the reason we need carbon & pollution tax! this is like whack-a-mole, way too many industries lurking under the radar & polluting our common resources for private profit. unless we put a price to it they will not factor in the cost to the rest of us.

How does that stop people from still buying the now corrected-for-those-taxes garments? All you've done is added a revenue stream in the middle, and now there's even less incentive for regulators to do anything about the _actual_ problem, because now they're making (more) money off of the problem, and solving the underlying problem would damage those revenue streams.

The price correction is the point. If the externalities are internalized it makes better methods proportionality more incentivized and viable if say cotton fabric garments are only seventeen cents more expensive than a synthetic instead of the previous two dollars without environmental costs factored in. Demand would be shifted accordingly.

Re: Fashion industry emits more carbon than flights and maritime shipping combined

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Post by Doxin »

WrtCdEvrydy wrote: post #169
TeMPOraL wrote: post #116

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Honestly? Too much effort finding a tailor friendly enough to make it (and perhaps not charge exorbitant amounts of money). And my wife most likely wouldn't approve me walking in it daily around our small town. (And, I don't feel I meet Starfleet standards of excellence, so I don't deserve to wear one.) Some 12 years ago I got together with a group of folks, intending to shoot a fan Star Trek series. We got as far as…

Honestly, there's a company other called volante design that makes them, but they're kidna pricy.

I've been eyeing those designs for a while now, I really wish this sort of stuff became actual fashion. It looks cool as heck and it doesn't seem especially impractical or hard to produce.

I'm still too big a whuss to actually wear anything like that though, even if it was reasonably priced.

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Post by agumonkey »

dsfyu404ed wrote: post #152
agumonkey wrote: post #126

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Recently i've been paying attention to monthly dumps in the city. People seem to have an endless stream of things to throw away. It's said to be a time of crysis, and unless half the population decided to live without furnitures, it seems every body buys new things endlessly. Here goes the 'less consumerism, less shipping' advice.

Rich people throw away nice stuff. The trick to getting it is patience and the capacity to pick things up on a whim. I've furnished my entire house with free stuff. It takes a log longer than just throwing your credit card at Ikea but the stuff fits my house so much better anyway. It's not clapped out junk either. It's mostly nice stuff from people moving and empty-nesters downsizing.

I live between poor and rich neighborhoods, both of them throw a massive amount of stuff. It's true that you can find better brand / rarer stuff in rich places but the volume is similar.

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Post by ahartmetz »

Swizec wrote: post #50
TeMPOraL wrote: post #42

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I'd happily wear a DS9 or First Contact era Starfleet uniform all day. They look great! :). Regarding your serious point, I'd like to know too. I'd pay for a service that would help me find a style that looks good on me, with associated supply of quality clothes in this style. My current clothing choice pattern is "random, with a pre-filtering done by my wife".

I learned a most important trick watching America’s Next Top Model with my sister: Buy oufits, not clothes. You make the decision on what goes together and looks good at the store. You try stuff until you find what works. When it works, you buy the whole outfit. Possibly in multiples. No more decisions when getting dressed. You have predetermined outfits for whatever activity you’re doing that day. Refresh every few…

If you don't want to buy everything at once, go shopping wearing something the new piece should go together with. Is that not common sense knowledge?

Re: Fashion industry emits more carbon than flights and maritime shipping combined

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Post by TeMPOraL »

WrtCdEvrydy wrote: post #169
TeMPOraL wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Honestly? Too much effort finding a tailor friendly enough to make it (and perhaps not charge exorbitant amounts of money). And my wife most likely wouldn't approve me walking in it daily around our small town. (And, I don't feel I meet Starfleet standards of excellence, so I don't deserve to wear one.) Some 12 years ago I got together with a group of folks, intending to shoot a fan Star Trek series. We got as far as…

Honestly, there's a company other called volante design that makes them, but they're kidna pricy.

Huh.

https://www.volantedesign.us/pages/star-trek-collection

So from the pre-Abrams reboot series, they only have their interpretation of the TNG-era uniform. It actually does look pretty nice. $300 is a lot for a jacket, though. Thanks anyway!

Re: Fashion industry emits more carbon than flights and maritime shipping combined

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Post by ahartmetz »

grenoire wrote: post #64
Swizec wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I learned a most important trick watching America’s Next Top Model with my sister: Buy oufits, not clothes. You make the decision on what goes together and looks good at the store. You try stuff until you find what works. When it works, you buy the whole outfit. Possibly in multiples. No more decisions when getting dressed. You have predetermined outfits for whatever activity you’re doing that day. Refresh every few…

I like a combination approach much better. Buy multiple shirts, tees, sweaters, and pants which can match with each other. Oftentimes these are less saturated earthy colours with white and black mixed in. It'll be timeless and easy to maintain—not to mention very suitable for ones who have analysis paralysis with clothes. You can't mess up!

IME analysis paralysis is worse when almost everything is crap. For me, shopping is reasonably fun when I go to a store that has mostly good stuff. Picking a good item from 5 good / 3 bad ones is much better than picking a good item from 2 good / 20 bad ones.

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Post by jraby3 »

flyGuyOnTheSly wrote: post #112

I can't wait for the day when I can walk to my local dump and move into a mcmansion somebody threw out because the paint was the wrong color... And I am only half joking. Go into your local thrift store and try not to gasp as you walk past $300 pair of designer jeans after $400 dress, some of them still with tags on them as they've never been worn, and most all of them in seemingly brand-new condition. It's a consume…

I buy about ten t shirts a year and wear them almost every day. After about a year most are garbage - holes in them, stains, etc.

Any suggestions? I’d love to not have to do this anymore.

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