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Public-Health Puzzle: Young People Having Less Sex, Contracting More STDs

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Post by TheCapeGreek »

I've read through the comments related to relationships here and a lot of the same arguments were made. One that stood out was "Women are selectors and men take what they can get" (paraphrased) and a few similar statements.

This isn't a bad thing. [1][2][3][4] If you as a straight man are putting some effort into being a decent human being and better dating prospect, in the long term you're far more likely to have a good outcome than a woman of "equal" "value" (subjective concepts).

[1] https://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/why-women-lose-the-dating-g...

[2] https://putanumonit.com/2016/02/03/015-dating_1/

[3] https://putanumonit.com/2016/02/10/017-dating_2/

[4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stable_marriage_problem

Re: Public-Health Puzzle: Young People Having Less Sex, Contracting More STDs

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Post by repolfx »

throwaway87378 wrote: post #139
repolfx wrote: post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There obviously is a modern left and feminism is a central tenet of it. The fact that feminism has been riddled with violence, man hating and calls for androcide from the start is taboo to discuss today because feminists will respond in the way you'd expect: meltdown followed by an attempt to destroy the "men's right activist" who pointed it out. Even in the comment above you can see someone has been conditioned to t…

> There obviously is a modern left and feminism is a central tenet of it. Since you seem to be so well-informed on the subject, maybe you can help me with a question about the "modern left" that I have had for several years now: what does John Zerzan have in common with Hillary Clinton?

I don't know anything about John Zerzan but from his Wikipedia page he sounds like someone who applies Marxist theory to primitive vs modern societies instead of proles vs the bourgeoisie.

The feminist philosophy of Clinton and the primitivist ecophilosophy (?) of Zerzan share at their core the same ideas as Marx: they see the world as a struggle between innocent oppressed groups and evil oppressor groups, with everyone being categorisable into one of those two categories and in which world progress inevitably builds to an overthrow of the oppressors leading to a kind of universal peace.

Zerzan uses the same terminology as Marx even, that of alienation. Feminists don't use that rather archaic word, but they do talk a lot about discrimination, oppression, patriarchy (instead of bourgeoisie) and so on. The phrase "the future is female" expresses the same sentiment as Marx when he predicted the inevitable victory of the working classes over their oppressors.

Re: Public-Health Puzzle: Young People Having Less Sex, Contracting More STDs

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Post by throwaway87378 »

repolfx wrote: post #142
throwaway87378 wrote: post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> There obviously is a modern left and feminism is a central tenet of it. Since you seem to be so well-informed on the subject, maybe you can help me with a question about the "modern left" that I have had for several years now: what does John Zerzan have in common with Hillary Clinton?

I don't know anything about John Zerzan but from his Wikipedia page he sounds like someone who applies Marxist theory to primitive vs modern societies instead of proles vs the bourgeoisie. The feminist philosophy of Clinton and the primitivist ecophilosophy (?) of Zerzan share at their core the same ideas as Marx: they see the world as a struggle between innocent oppressed groups and evil oppressor groups, with every…

> I don't know anything about John Zerzan but

Stop right there. You know nothing about the "modern left" if you have never heard of John Zerzan. And if you think that he is some kind of Marxist because you skimmed a Wikipedia page, you are clearly a know-it-all idiot Dunning-Krugering himself.

Re: Public-Health Puzzle: Young People Having Less Sex, Contracting More STDs

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Post by throwaway87378 »

ReptileMan wrote: post #89
pushcx wrote: post #80

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> a large percentage of men are totally removed from the dating market (not by choice) Please don't make up things like this. There's tons of well-researched data available from the CDC and NIH. None of it supports this misogynist conspiracy that men have stopped having sex. > Regarding opposite-sex sexual behavior, 95.3% of women and 93.5% of men aged 18–44 had ever had any opposite-sex sexual contact. There are pag…

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2019/03/29/share-ame... The share of Americans not having sex has reached a record high % of 18-30 year olds reporting no sex in the past year 2008 Women: 8% Men: 10% 2018 Women: 18% Men: 28% The rate of change is twice higher for men. I guess reality is misogynist by your definition of misogyny

I don't understand why people are not pointing out the obvious: there is a correlation with rising obesity rates.

https://www.niddk.nih.gov/health-information/health-statisti...

40% of the adult US population is now obese, 70% is obese or overweight. Overweight people have a hard time dating, for those obese it is even tougher, and many give up hope. Men have a further problem: obesity is very strongly linked to diseases that have an impact on their ability to have an erection.

Re: Public-Health Puzzle: Young People Having Less Sex, Contracting More STDs

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Post by repolfx »

throwaway87378 wrote: post #143
repolfx wrote: post #142

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know anything about John Zerzan but from his Wikipedia page he sounds like someone who applies Marxist theory to primitive vs modern societies instead of proles vs the bourgeoisie. The feminist philosophy of Clinton and the primitivist ecophilosophy (?) of Zerzan share at their core the same ideas as Marx: they see the world as a struggle between innocent oppressed groups and evil oppressor groups, with every…

> I don't know anything about John Zerzan but Stop right there. You know nothing about the "modern left" if you have never heard of John Zerzan. And if you think that he is some kind of Marxist because you skimmed a Wikipedia page, you are clearly a know-it-all idiot Dunning-Krugering himself.

That's a rather offensively culturally relative judgement. The left exists everywhere, one man does not. Why should I have heard of him? Are you assuming everyone comes from the same place and culture you do?

You don't seem to have any real response to my points Mr Throwaway. If he isn't then respond to my comparisons?

Re: Public-Health Puzzle: Young People Having Less Sex, Contracting More STDs

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Post by throwaway87378 »

repolfx wrote: post #145
throwaway87378 wrote: post #143

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I don't know anything about John Zerzan but Stop right there. You know nothing about the "modern left" if you have never heard of John Zerzan. And if you think that he is some kind of Marxist because you skimmed a Wikipedia page, you are clearly a know-it-all idiot Dunning-Krugering himself.

That's a rather offensively culturally relative judgement. The left exists everywhere, one man does not. Why should I have heard of him? Are you assuming everyone comes from the same place and culture you do? You don't seem to have any real response to my points Mr Throwaway. If he isn't then respond to my comparisons?

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