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Mac OS Catalina: more trouble than it’s worth

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Re: Mac OS Catalina: more trouble than it’s worth

#51

TLDR; The author hasn’t upgraded, and while they have some well-founded concerns they haven’t actually used it. It’s going to be difficult to make anyone happy with this release that has already decided they don’t like it.

If it's breaking 32-bit apps, and you need at least one 32-bit app (for the author, Aperture), that's kind of all you need to know.

Re: Mac OS Catalina: more trouble than it’s worth

#52
The comment about macOS’s Mail.app struck a chord with me. My upgrade to iOS 13 has changed the mail app on my phone to sporadically open old inbox threads. It happens something like 1 in every N times I launch the app. It’s seemingly done at random and is the strangest thing about this upgrade by far.

It’s like Apple are trying to nudge me into being better at responding to emails. Is there a PM at Apple watching an engagement metric increase? With my personal email?!

Re: Mac OS Catalina: more trouble than it’s worth

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post #29

That reads less like a reasonable, well-thought breakdown and more like a whiny diatribe coming from an entitled teenager. If the entire argument boils down to "I don't wanna!", then what's the point? Don't upgrade. Apple isn't forcing anyone to upgrade at all. If you need to run all your old software, don't upgrade. That's not a fault of the new OS. Technology changes. That's a fact of life. Even the example of Aper…

Catalina does break a lot of games. I am pretty sure that if you get on Steam, the list of games that Catalina breaks is longer than the list of games that work on Catalina.

I'm sure it does because most games didn't update to 64-bit. I still fail to see how that warrants an article like that. If you know the games won't work and you still want to play them, don't upgrade. It's not that hard.

Re: Mac OS Catalina: more trouble than it’s worth

#56

I have an issue with my iMac 5k 2017 not staying in sleep when I selected so. Randomly wakes with the display off. But I can tell because there’s a very low fan noise and some heat from the back.

Are you sure “power naps” isn’t enabled? It’s in your power panel.

Re: Mac OS Catalina: more trouble than it’s worth

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post #30
post #5

"why mess with Mail’s classic layout? It’s been my preferred layout since Mac OS X 10.0, and that type of layout has basically been the one I have used since I started using email more than twenty years ago" This seems to be the heart of the post. I see the value in stable, unchanging things, but I also have to believe the designers at Apple are trying to make things better, and I think that is honorable.

> but I also have to believe the designers at Apple are trying to make things better Except they're not trying to make things better. They're just changing things - often ignoring their own UI guidelines to do so - and introducing bugs that cause data loss at the same time. Updates shouldn't cause data loss - especially for something as critical as email.

There is no evidence, and no reason to believe, that the UI changes in Mail are related to reports of data loss.

Re: Mac OS Catalina: more trouble than it’s worth

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post #29

That reads less like a reasonable, well-thought breakdown and more like a whiny diatribe coming from an entitled teenager. If the entire argument boils down to "I don't wanna!", then what's the point? Don't upgrade. Apple isn't forcing anyone to upgrade at all. If you need to run all your old software, don't upgrade. That's not a fault of the new OS. Technology changes. That's a fact of life. Even the example of Aper…

Catalina does break a lot of games. I am pretty sure that if you get on Steam, the list of games that Catalina breaks is longer than the list of games that work on Catalina.

Is that just because of the signing requirement on executables?

Re: Mac OS Catalina: more trouble than it’s worth

#59

That reads less like a reasonable, well-thought breakdown and more like a whiny diatribe coming from an entitled teenager. If the entire argument boils down to "I don't wanna!", then what's the point? Don't upgrade. Apple isn't forcing anyone to upgrade at all. If you need to run all your old software, don't upgrade. That's not a fault of the new OS. Technology changes. That's a fact of life. Even the example of Aper…

> That reads less like a reasonable, well-thought breakdown and more like a whiny diatribe coming from an entitled teenager. A customer is legitimately entitled to upgrades that aren't actually downgrades. > Apple isn't forcing anyone to upgrade at all. > Just don't act surprised and attacked when it doesn't work anymore years from now. Well... if Apple isn't forcing people to upgrade now, but will later, then there'…

>legitimately entitled

No, they are not. This isn't an upgrade to their existing OS like a patch release. This is a new OS completely and developers were all warned years in advance that Catalina would drop 32-bit support. This is not a downgrade in the slightest.

>but will later

I have a Mac Mini from 2005 that still runs MacOS Leopard just as well as the day I bought it. I can't install all the latest, greatest software on it and I can't even access every website anymore (TLS updates and all that) but it still functions as good, if not better, than it did when I first bought it and runs all the software that's still installed on it.

No MacOS update has ever been forced or mandatory. Ever.

The customer is not always right but I'm pretty sure offering an OS upgrade is doing right by the customer considering it doesn't cost anything and, for most people, adds far more than it takes away and is, again, optional.

Re: Mac OS Catalina: more trouble than it’s worth

#60
Nobody is forcing people to upgrade - you’re free to stick with an older version of any OS, although possibly at the cost of the OS going out of support from the vendor. Why such a decision seems to lead to these long winded opinion pieces on the internet is weird - don’t these authors have something better to do than opine about how what they want doesn’t line up exactly with what some vendor is giving them for free?
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