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Re: Ask HN: Feasible Alternative to the MacBook Pro?

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Post by randomsearch »

foopdoopfoop wrote: post #440
randomsearch wrote: post #437

If you use email a lot and don’t want to use gmail etc in the browser, your only choice is Windows. I’ve tried all the GUI mail clients on Linux, and they are all either buggy as hell, don’t support most standards, or hellish UX. Given Windows is much much worse than OS X for tech stuff, there isn’t really an alternative. Macs have gotten worse, less reliable, design is tanking, software becoming buggy, but it’s stil…

Why haven't you tried a CLI client? Also, Office 2016 seems to be fairly well-support on any number of those wine-based compatibility layers.

CLI clients aren't really fit for purpose if you're doing management-level email.

Re: Ask HN: Feasible Alternative to the MacBook Pro?

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Post by rezmeplease »

Razer Blade or Blade stealth

If you're looking for something as reliable as 2015 or macbook pro's that don't have butterfly keyboards then maybe this isn't a good choice. But specwise it's even better (display and internals) and the trackpad is probably best in all windows computers (they're basically trying to mimic macbooks).

However, like I said before, they aren't exactly the most reliable laptops, but when they work, they work REALLY well

Re: Ask HN: Feasible Alternative to the MacBook Pro?

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Post by dotancohen »

dang wrote: post #575
dotancohen wrote: post #457

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thank you for the feedback. What is the problem with gender-specific analogies in computing? If I'm making an analogy with relationships, and I am a man, why wouldn't I use a female for the other half?

There's a subtle distinction here so please bear with me. I guess that to some extent this exchange is affected by being cross-cultural without the participants being aware of it. The fine-pointed contemporary standards that currently apply in—for example—the major cities of the U.S. are not in circulation worldwide. This leads to misunderstanding and excessive harshness. People read comments as if they were written…

Thank you very much.

I defend that sentence as meaning "touch her with consent in ways that are different that what she is used to". In keeping with it being an analogy for config files, I would like to edit it to read "stumble a bit when I touch" but it seems that my post is locked to editing.

You are invited to edit that phrasing in, or if you can unlock the post I'll do it.

Thank you for taking the time to explain. I'll do my best to apply what I've learned.

Re: Ask HN: Feasible Alternative to the MacBook Pro?

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Post by neuroticfish »

darksaints wrote: post #421
cytzol wrote: post #253

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> In a hotel (=on Mac), everything is stylish and cared for, but you have very little freedom to change things. I've heard this over and over — that Macs are locked-down, uncustomisable machines — and I don't agree with it at all. I use replacements for almost all the built-in apps. I use a custom launcher. My editor config Git repo is approaching ten years old, and my shell config Git repo is almost eight. There are…

Get back to me when you can figure out how to upgrade your ram.

Huh? I had 0 problems upgrading the RAM in my 2011 MBP. Have they made it inaccessible since then?

Re: Ask HN: Feasible Alternative to the MacBook Pro?

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Post by jbotz »

rch wrote: post #428

I'm planning on picking up a Purism Librem 15 in the near future; probably January. I've seen a few System 76 laptops at tech events around Boulder/Denver and they seem solid as well.

As I understand it, with Purism, if you want to "pick it up in January" you'd better order it now! People have waited more than 3 months for theirs.

Re: Ask HN: Feasible Alternative to the MacBook Pro?

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Post by president »

gherkinnn wrote: post #322
fortran77 wrote: post #259

Windows 10 on good hardware is very, very nice. My advice is "don't fight windows". I've seen many people try to make Windows like Unix. Don't. Use Windows versions of things, not things compiled under Cygwin or MinGW. Learn to use Powershell and Powershell scripting language. I do development (C/C++/CUDA/Erlang/Python) all day long on Windows 10 and in addition use desktop applications like Microsoft Office and Adob…

Have been working on Windows machines (C# ftw) for a while now. I hate it. Everything. Kafkaesque configuration UIs, horrible window management, mouse acceleration is off, font rendering is atrocious, the updates make me unreasonably angry, mixed design systems leave me confused, File Explorer isn’t even trying, many apps are downright insulting, and the entire thing just reeks of PMs in ill-fitting suits prodding th…

Windows is the wild west. There seems to be no underlying design philosophy tying together the UI elements and interactions of applications built on top of it. Funny because Microsoft actually has huge teams of UX researchers. What are they all doing?

Re: Ask HN: Feasible Alternative to the MacBook Pro?

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Post by JOLYJOKER »

Máquina bien construida. macOS es genial. Portátil súper delgado y de 15 ". El teclado está bien para mí. El rendimiento ha sido excelente para mí, no lento pero supongo que se debe a macOS.

Ram y SSD que se están soldando no es un problema para mí, ¿necesita actualizar? Venda su MBP y compre el nuevo (los dispositivos Apple conservan mucho valor)

Re: Ask HN: Feasible Alternative to the MacBook Pro?

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Post by hollerith »

president wrote: post #606
gherkinnn wrote: post #322

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have been working on Windows machines (C# ftw) for a while now. I hate it. Everything. Kafkaesque configuration UIs, horrible window management, mouse acceleration is off, font rendering is atrocious, the updates make me unreasonably angry, mixed design systems leave me confused, File Explorer isn’t even trying, many apps are downright insulting, and the entire thing just reeks of PMs in ill-fitting suits prodding th…

Windows is the wild west. There seems to be no underlying design philosophy tying together the UI elements and interactions of applications built on top of it. Funny because Microsoft actually has huge teams of UX researchers. What are they all doing?

What they are doing is continuing their decades-long commitment to backward compatibility, which makes it much harder to remove old code from the OS.

Re: Ask HN: Feasible Alternative to the MacBook Pro?

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Post by dotancohen »

dotancohen wrote: post #603
dang wrote: post #575

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a subtle distinction here so please bear with me. I guess that to some extent this exchange is affected by being cross-cultural without the participants being aware of it. The fine-pointed contemporary standards that currently apply in—for example—the major cities of the U.S. are not in circulation worldwide. This leads to misunderstanding and excessive harshness. People read comments as if they were written…

Thank you very much. I defend that sentence as meaning "touch her with consent in ways that are different that what she is used to". In keeping with it being an analogy for config files, I would like to edit it to read "stumble a bit when I touch" but it seems that my post is locked to editing. You are invited to edit that phrasing in, or if you can unlock the post I'll do it. Thank you for taking the time to explain…

After thinking about it some more, I stand by my original wording. The first time that we do something - whether it be with a woman or a new server - we make mistakes. That is what I was trying to express. In no way did I say or suggest that I would do things without somebody's consent. I'm sure if somebody is out looking for examples to make then he can twist my words into meaning that, but it is very clear from the context that "against consent" was not my intention. Those people out on their witch hunt are the problem.

Re: Ask HN: Feasible Alternative to the MacBook Pro?

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Post by cdata »

whycombagator wrote: post #425
cdata wrote: post #346

Similar story to OP. The MBP I acquired in 2017 has been undergoing rapid disintegration while the 2013 model it replaced is still working just fine. After stressing over the problem that nothing seemed comparable spec-wise, System 76 released their Adder WS and after reading some testimonials from users online I made the leap back to Linux. So far, I am very pleased with the choice. Here is what I love about it: - A…

How is the chassis/build quality? IIRC they are just sager/ shells I've read varying reports of the build quality and it's one of the reasons I've not bothered with System 76 - I fear it will be inferior to a Dell/Lenovo product.

The build quality feels great, and it doesn't feel like it is going to fall apart on me (granted, it is brand new). It feels quite solid, it doesn't easily bend or creak, and I feel like I can throw it into a backpack safely enough. Also, the keyboard feels really great, although anything that isn't a modern MBP keyboard feels really great to me these days.

That said, it doesn't feel quite like a single, solid piece the way my 2017 MBP does. I'm not sure why that is, especially since several of the keys on my MBP are actually falling off of it right now.

I would say that it feels comparable to a Lenovo laptop, but I haven't owned one of those for almost a decade.

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