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Re: NordVPN confirms it was hacked

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Post by Godel_unicode »

JadoJodo wrote: post #424
mvexel wrote: post #363

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> However, I was bombarded with ads for NordVPN and their crap made me so angry it pretty much sold me a paid YouTube membership. For me it was those incessant Grammarly ads. A service, by the way, that has its own serious security and privacy concerns[0]. (I feel like YouTube Premium ($18/mo for up to 6 people) is a better deal than Spotify Premium ($15/mo for up to 6 people) for a household like mine where we liste…

I'm torn for this reason: I want to avoid ads, but I don't want to give Google any more money. It's unfortunate that YouTube is really the only one of it's kind. For the moment, I get around this conundrum using a combination of uBlock Origin[0] (Firefox) and NewPipe[1] on Android. Not 100% sure what I'll do about the latter when I switch to iOS. [0] https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock [1] https://newpipe.schabi.org/

I'm curious what your thought process was on this. It sounds like you're saying you want to use their service but you don't want to pay for it. Is this a moral argument for you, then?

Re: NordVPN confirms it was hacked

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Post by Godel_unicode »

TaylorAlexander wrote: post #430
JadoJodo wrote: post #424

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm torn for this reason: I want to avoid ads, but I don't want to give Google any more money. It's unfortunate that YouTube is really the only one of it's kind. For the moment, I get around this conundrum using a combination of uBlock Origin[0] (Firefox) and NewPipe[1] on Android. Not 100% sure what I'll do about the latter when I switch to iOS. [0] https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock [1] https://newpipe.schabi.org/

I’m on iOS and I just deal with the ads. There’s a lot and I guess it would be more annoying if you were used to no ads, but it’s manageable. I’d pay for a video service if the company didn’t track me, but I’m resistant to paying for services and also being tracked.

Do you think they would get more money by monetizing you with a credit card than they do by monetizing with ads? I hear this argument that people don't want to pay with money as opposed to attention, and I always feel the opposite.

Re: NordVPN confirms it was hacked

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Post by bjoli »

dddddaviddddd wrote: post #294
unicornfinder wrote: post #134

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I've been using Mullvad for a while now and I have nothing but praise for them. Only complaint is they're more expensive than some of their competitors.

What aspects of a VPN provider would you praise? Customer service, consistency of connection speed? Seems almost like a utility where it's hard to differentiate.

I am not OP, but they helped me with a rare openvpn config for which my forays into the openVPN forums led nowhere.

Out of my 110/12mbit connection Mullvad let's me use 108/11 of that, and even has wireguard support.

Re: NordVPN confirms it was hacked

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Post by steelframe »

JadoJodo wrote: post #424
mvexel wrote: post #363

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> However, I was bombarded with ads for NordVPN and their crap made me so angry it pretty much sold me a paid YouTube membership. For me it was those incessant Grammarly ads. A service, by the way, that has its own serious security and privacy concerns[0]. (I feel like YouTube Premium ($18/mo for up to 6 people) is a better deal than Spotify Premium ($15/mo for up to 6 people) for a household like mine where we liste…

I'm torn for this reason: I want to avoid ads, but I don't want to give Google any more money. It's unfortunate that YouTube is really the only one of it's kind. For the moment, I get around this conundrum using a combination of uBlock Origin[0] (Firefox) and NewPipe[1] on Android. Not 100% sure what I'll do about the latter when I switch to iOS. [0] https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock [1] https://newpipe.schabi.org/

> I don't want to give Google any more money.

I guess I'm on the opposite side of the spectrum. I want to opt-out of being the product and instead be a customer by paying for "Google Premium" or whatever. It would be an "all things Google" subscription, not just YouTube. Any place there would normally be a Google-curated ad... there wouldn't be one. No more ads at the top of my Google searches. No ads embedded in web pages I visit (rather, Google pays the content provider some fixed amount from my account balance or whatever -- after prompting me to authorize it). No tracking, no "value-add," nothing. Just, "Here's my money, provide me an equitable and reasonable Internet experience that makes sure content providers get fair compensation, and otherwise leave me the fuck alone."

And, most importantly, that would mean that I could never be locked out of my GMail account without a fucking handwritten letter on Crane & Co. stationary with a direct phone number to a human being who I can talk to about whatever is going on.

You could argue that you'd just be paying a gestapo-like figure for the "privilege" of doing stuff that "should be" free. But you're already paying, in the sense that you're the product, and your time and attention is the currency.

Re: NordVPN confirms it was hacked

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Post by ryanlol »

fouric wrote: post #429
ryanlol wrote: post #418

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Why would you think he was a troll? I've had my google account suspended without explanation.

Read the comments. The claimed suspension message was extremely unlikely to be real.

I have read the comments, I wouldn't be so sure.

>First I got an email from Google saying that I was using 3rd party app outside of Play Store to go around Youtube ads

I absolutely do not believe this part, but I'm willing to dismiss this as confusion on the users end.

However, the rest of the comments by the user accurately describe how google account suspensions work. The same user had also created some rather reasonable issues before this one.

Re: NordVPN confirms it was hacked

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Post by willstrafach »

jwilk wrote: post #126
rikkipitt wrote: post #42

NordVPN just posted this a few minutes ago: https://nordvpn.com/blog/official-response-datacenter-breach...

They wrote: > We […] started creating a process to move all of our servers to RAM, which is to be completed next year. What does "RAM" mean here?

Likely booting the OS from a RAM-disk and mounting as read-only.

Re: NordVPN confirms it was hacked

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Post by juped »

Sir_Cmpwn wrote: post #4

NordVPN is being recommended a lot to people who don't know better by influencers on social media, especially on YouTube. This kind of endorsement is recklessly negligent and needs to stop. https://drewdevault.com/2019/04/19/Your-VPN-is-a-serious-cho... Edit: note that I don't blame these influencers for their ignorance on the risks of using a VPN; rather I blame the shady VPN providers for overselling the security v…

None of these VPN critiques, including yours, actually address the reasons people use VPNs. Here's a big one: https://iknowwhatyoudownload.com/

Re: NordVPN confirms it was hacked

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Post by alphast0rm »

mdorazio wrote: post #5

Someone is probably going to ask what other HN users recommend as an alternative. Personally, I use Private Internet Access because they're the only provider I've found with a track record of demonstrably not being able to turn your records over to someone asking for them [1]. [1] https://torrentfreak.com/private-internet-access-no-logging-...

A good resource for comparing different VPN providers is the VPN Comparison by That One Privacy Guy [1]. I personally use Mullvad [2].

[1] https://thatoneprivacysite.net

[2] https://mullvad.net/en/

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