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AWS Customers Rack Up Hefty Bills for Moving Data

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#11

Anyone (no longer under NDA) know if Apple intends to migrate user iCloud data from AWS and GCP object stores to their own data centers at some point?

> no longer under NDA

Do NDAs expire? AFAIK you sign an NDA and you’re bound to respect that forever. Unless the knowledge becomes publicly available.

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#13
post #6

Is there a plausible explanation why egress fees from cloud providers costs around $0.1/GB? "Traditional" server providers such as Hetzner are able to offer bandwidth at orders of magnitude lower price (eg. $1.1/TB). I understand that cloud providers may have better interconnects or better uptimes, but that doesn't justify the magnitudes higher pricing.

It has no basis in reality. You can buy a 10Gbps transit circuit for $1500/month. That's $0.00046296296 per gigabyte.

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For a service I built on AWS lambda, the far majority of the cost was just data egress. Unfortunately I haven’t found a competitor that offers the same kind of features that I’m using lambda for (running golang with additional custom binaries)

Both Azure and GCP let you run arbitrary containers in a serverless fashion. GCP Cloud Run is per-request too.

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post #8

> A person close to AWS said its data transfer charges reflect a range of technology costs customers would normally pay if they weren’t using cloud services, including fiber optic connections, networking hardware devices and software, cybersecurity services and network monitoring software. I'd believe this more if the pricing of bandwidth on AWS hadn't stayed pretty flat since its launch. Plus, it's frustrating that…

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"The charges don’t appear to be a case of cloud providers gouging their customers" I disagree on this one. The margins on egress are, well...egregious.

At some point everyone realized they could charge a massive premium per bit and as long as everyone did it, customers would have to pay. So here we are.

Customers are also to blame, when comparing the costs of two services they tend to look at the cost of an instance hour, or lambda execution and often don't look at transfer costs.

Even if a cloud provider had competitive transfer costs they likely wouldn't attract any new customers and would have less margin left over to subsidize the main cost customers look at, $ per instance hour.

The less attention is paid to transfer costs the better for AWS/GCP/Azure. Why hasn't a spot-market for transfer been introduced? Same reason why I can't sell my unused home internet bandwidth to my neighbors, the money is in controlling the means of transportation/communication and the providers want to keep as tight a control on that as possible.

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Anyone (no longer under NDA) know if Apple intends to migrate user iCloud data from AWS and GCP object stores to their own data centers at some point?

> no longer under NDA Do NDAs expire? AFAIK you sign an NDA and you’re bound to respect that forever. Unless the knowledge becomes publicly available.

I mean, it depends on the language of the NDA.

As a quick example, this random free template I found online[0] uses "5 years".

[0] https://www.docracy.com/1/generic-nda

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#20
It does appear like price gouging. Once you're in, you're locked in.

Any chance some of those high costs are due to movement of data due to GDPR compliance? Maybe Apple did all its prep in 2017.

Also there are some misconceptions on inter-AZ data transfer as well: (https://www.lastweekinaws.com/blog/aws-cross-az-data-transfe...)

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