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Daily blue light shortens lifespan, causes brain neurodegeneration in Drosophila

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Re: Daily blue light shortens lifespan, causes brain neurodegeneration in Drosophila

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post #27

Surely walking around outside exposes you to plenty of blue light. I think the issue is when people stay up late working at the computer.

If I take off my blue light glasses and look outside at night I feel like I've just been woken up.

Modern street lights seem worse than most people think in this case.

Re: Daily blue light shortens lifespan, causes brain neurodegeneration in Drosophila

#73
post #9

If you are a human and not a fly here is what concerns you "... humans are exposed to more blue-enriched LED illumination for most of the day, or even at night due to shift work and light pollution in large cities.6 However, long-term consequences of increased daily blue-light exposure across the human lifespan are not known." saved you a clickbait.

So this should be on the "in flies" Twitter. [1]

[1] https://twitter.com/justsaysinmice

Re: Daily blue light shortens lifespan, causes brain neurodegeneration in Drosophila

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So to bring this a little bit back to biology (and away from the fact that the article says little about humans) I would conjecture that the issue with blue light may stem from Rayleigh scattering [1] of sunlight and the subsequent phenomenon whereby the light that reaches us has a lot of the blue component removed.

In the late afternoon, all the blue light get caught and even some of the red, since the sun is now not just an atmosphere-length but an atmosphere length plus a radius of the earth length from the observer and hence has more distance to get scattered. This would mean we get orange-ish light.

Have biologists pointed this out?

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rayleigh_scattering

Re: Daily blue light shortens lifespan, causes brain neurodegeneration in Drosophila

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post #74

So to bring this a little bit back to biology (and away from the fact that the article says little about humans) I would conjecture that the issue with blue light may stem from Rayleigh scattering [1] of sunlight and the subsequent phenomenon whereby the light that reaches us has a lot of the blue component removed. In the late afternoon, all the blue light get caught and even some of the red, since the sun is now no…

I always wondered: is there anyway to distinguish an evening from a morning through the sort of light we see. So Image you see random pictures and don’t know if it’s dawn or dusk. Can you see the difference?

Re: Daily blue light shortens lifespan, causes brain neurodegeneration in Drosophila

#76
post #13

I made a (what most people would consider terrible) vim color scheme that has no blue light in it (it's like an old amber terminal). Initially I thought I would hate it and switch back in a couple days/weeks, but I actually find it very nice, and switching to anything w/ blue light or a "normal color scheme" with blues and greens now weirdly feels like an assault. Feel free to give it a whirl: https://github.com/camg…

I was about to create an emacs version of this theme, but as usual, C-x-M-butterfly exists and there exists a version of this theme: https://github.com/emacs-jp/replace-colorthemes/blob/master/...

Re: Daily blue light shortens lifespan, causes brain neurodegeneration in Drosophila

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post #75
post #74

So to bring this a little bit back to biology (and away from the fact that the article says little about humans) I would conjecture that the issue with blue light may stem from Rayleigh scattering [1] of sunlight and the subsequent phenomenon whereby the light that reaches us has a lot of the blue component removed. In the late afternoon, all the blue light get caught and even some of the red, since the sun is now no…

I always wondered: is there anyway to distinguish an evening from a morning through the sort of light we see. So Image you see random pictures and don’t know if it’s dawn or dusk. Can you see the difference?

Based on Raleigh scattering only and one time stamp only the answer is, I think... Maybe.

In the morning, if there is less dust, then there would be different Raleigh scattering.

Re: Daily blue light shortens lifespan, causes brain neurodegeneration in Drosophila

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post #75
post #74

So to bring this a little bit back to biology (and away from the fact that the article says little about humans) I would conjecture that the issue with blue light may stem from Rayleigh scattering [1] of sunlight and the subsequent phenomenon whereby the light that reaches us has a lot of the blue component removed. In the late afternoon, all the blue light get caught and even some of the red, since the sun is now no…

I always wondered: is there anyway to distinguish an evening from a morning through the sort of light we see. So Image you see random pictures and don’t know if it’s dawn or dusk. Can you see the difference?

Interestingly enough, if you aren’t familiar with the location, there’s no foolproof method to tell whether it’s morning or evening by light alone. There may be cues, like if it’s a city then the properties of light could reflect the denser pollution it has to penetrate in the evening, but that still depends on location and time of year.

I sincerely thought I could tell mornings from evenings by light alone, until I congratulated a friend on a great capture of evening light and he told me the shot was taken in the morning. Did some research after that.

Re: Daily blue light shortens lifespan, causes brain neurodegeneration in Drosophila

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post #37
post #13

I made a (what most people would consider terrible) vim color scheme that has no blue light in it (it's like an old amber terminal). Initially I thought I would hate it and switch back in a couple days/weeks, but I actually find it very nice, and switching to anything w/ blue light or a "normal color scheme" with blues and greens now weirdly feels like an assault. Feel free to give it a whirl: https://github.com/camg…

If you're on a Mac could you just use Flux or Night Shift to achieve the same result of removing all blue light from your display?

Yeah and there are other tools for other environments. I've found it hard to keep my setup aesthetically pleasing with them, and if you're doing anything with color or anything low contrast, they can make your life pretty hard. But yeah I mean, use whatever works for you, definitely.

Re: Daily blue light shortens lifespan, causes brain neurodegeneration in Drosophila

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post #13

I made a (what most people would consider terrible) vim color scheme that has no blue light in it (it's like an old amber terminal). Initially I thought I would hate it and switch back in a couple days/weeks, but I actually find it very nice, and switching to anything w/ blue light or a "normal color scheme" with blues and greens now weirdly feels like an assault. Feel free to give it a whirl: https://github.com/camg…

Somewhat similar to my terminal text color code. Mine is FCAF3E on 150C0C background, which I find a bit more neutral and gentle to the eyes. The secret is to avoid pure or saturated colors which I found sometimes can be a punch in the eye, so I usually start with a color then lower its intensity and add a bit of the others to make it less hard to look at.

Yeah I try and make color schemes that work in 256 color terminals and I really lament the lack of options sometimes. Could be worth doing something clever, but having been a terminal Vim user for so long, I've built up a lot of resentment against color schemes that look great in GUI but not so great in terminal haha.
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