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#101
Before anyone has any interest in replicating this - keep in mind that:

Trust is earned. Credibility is built.

Go long - don't create fake social proofs and ruin your own reputation. I can say with assurance that nobody in this thread will buy anything from OneTravel or their founders again.

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#102

Before anyone has any interest in replicating this - keep in mind that: Trust is earned. Credibility is built. Go long - don't create fake social proofs and ruin your own reputation. I can say with assurance that nobody in this thread will buy anything from OneTravel or their founders again.

Counterpoint: I had never heard of OneTravel and now in a little while I will have forgotten about this incident, but the name recognition will still exist for me, and therefore I'm more likely to trust them.

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#103
A while back I was working at a web startup (since folded), and management decided they wanted to inflate the usage numbers reported on the home page.

I was asked to write the code for it. I refused, telling my boss that I didn’t want to lie to our users. He said, “it’s not for them, it’s for the board.” “So we’re lying to the board, then?” I asked. He dropped it, and the task fell to another engineer.

The first version was deployed, with one slight oversight: he forgot to round the number the algorithm generated, so the home page displayed something like “157,311.18461947940563848871625 active users this month!” The bug was quickly rectified.

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#104
post #30

There's a product I've bought regularly at Amazon, it perpetually has 3 or less left in stock, but never goes out of stock. Also I was buying airline tickets and Delta told me there were just 2 left at this price for ... a plane nearly 70% empty.

In delta’s case that is correct. There are two left at that price (in that fare bucket). After they sell those seats, they will be selling from a higher fare bucket and the price will go up

Maybe but the pricing charts I've seen show fairs rising and falling.

That may be the case at the moment but if they shift those buckets I think it is also untrue unless it says 2 left.... unless we just change the price later.

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post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sadly that list doesn't answer the most important questions - do they have availability for a particular date, and at what price

Roomkey.com has that information for all the major hotel brands, and it’s owned by the hotel brands themselves.

I recognize roomkey.com from various Clojure related blog posts and interesting tech talks iirc.

https://cognitect.com/roomkey-case-study.html

https://techblog.roomkey.com

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#106
post #51

And I always assumed they use some sockets to sync that count from server. How dumb to just fake on the client side.

%99.999 of people aren't going to look up the legitimacy of this. Why spend development effort where the likelihood of getting caught is so low. And even when "getting caught" isn't that big a deal.

Takeaway: Just create a GET /current-viewers?id=42 endpoint and generate the random number on the server.

It'll satisfy all the HNers calling for legal action / off with their heads.

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#107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The source code literally calls Math.random. I hope that defence wouldn’t fly in court, even if accidentally true.

Always get in the seat of the defense. I would absolutely have made a few headless browsing bots masquarading as users just incase this scenario occurred Look your honor the logs say other users, “people”, were looking regardless of our random function

Ah yes the classic legal principle of "two wrongs makes a right".

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#108

Before anyone has any interest in replicating this - keep in mind that: Trust is earned. Credibility is built. Go long - don't create fake social proofs and ruin your own reputation. I can say with assurance that nobody in this thread will buy anything from OneTravel or their founders again.

I dont really care as long as I get a good price, just happened to purchase something from them a couple hours ago even knowing all this stuff.

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#110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How would you write a law to make it illegal? The better remedy is precisely what is occurring: someone calls the Emperor's bluff, and we all get on HN and engage in cheeky humor.

False advertising?

How are you actually going to prove the state of a distributed system in an legally actionable way?
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