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Disney+ streaming uses draconian DRM

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Re: Disney+ streaming uses draconian DRM

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So, at least from my basic research, the levels seem to be switched in this post: L1 is the highest level, not L3. So if Android and Desktop Linuxes support L1, that should not be an issue. Perhaps its is a minor error and he meant L3.

That being said, is it possible for the user to have their Desktop Linux support L1 somehow? Android is a Linux that clearly support L1 and can show these formats (I imagine), so can that be accomplished on another Linux?

Re: Disney+ streaming uses draconian DRM

#42
post #19

AmazonPrime video does not delivers HD content in Linux... I tried everything switching browsers, changing User agent, wine, running virtual box. I seems some type of DRM is not implemented yet in Linux. Netflix is the same I think. I happily pirate content now.

You can get 1080p streams from Netflix on Linux (for 99% of their collection) by switching your user agent to ChromeOS. Their check is just:

    a = /CrOS/.test(a.userAgent);
    this.Fma = this.Aw = q.Gu.PV;
    this.Qm = [x.$l.nV];
    this.oo = [x.V.vA, x.V.wA];
    a && this.oo.push(x.V.TH);
It very much is _not_ "DRM not yet implemented".

Both Prime and Netflix are fully capable of streaming their highest quality under Linux - if you have the driver support.

Unfortunately they have a bunch of hacky stuff trying to prevent it, rather than allowing the user's browser is to make the decision.

Re: Disney+ streaming uses draconian DRM

#43
post #3

Is Disney+ expected to work fully before launch date? Isn't in 'testing' right now as described by the author? Why is everything expected to be perfect while still in testing? From this text, it sounds like Disney is actively working on the issue. The product has not launched yet. I'm not sure what the problem is. Aside from a faster initial customer support response (for a product that isn't even out!) would could D…

You're ignoring the analysis that Disney+ seems to be blocking use entirely at the lower "security level" assessed by Widevine. It would not take significant time or effort for them to change the threshold value if it were something they considered broken. It seems prudent at this point to avoid becoming a paying customer until they address it, if you care about this sort of thing.

> You're ignoring the analysis that Disney+ seems to be blocking use entirely at the lower "security level" assessed by Widevine.

That's because it's wrong. Chrome on Windows only supports Level 3 too, and it works there.

(The article incorrectly assumes Level 1 is lower than Level 3. Level 1 is the highest security level, not the lowest.)

Re: Disney+ streaming uses draconian DRM

#44
Anyone who’s used Disney’s existing streaming service will, I am certain, tell you it it truly awful. It’s incredibly slow, saddles you with massive downloads regardless of device or connection type. The app sometimes just doesn’t open at all.

I really hope whatever they’re making is not based on what they are doing currently.

Re: Disney+ streaming uses draconian DRM

#45
post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While I agree with the philosophy that Disney should try to support as many platforms as possible, I really don't think it will notice the Linux market is missing. Cost of building and maintaining a Linux client > Potential revenue from Linux users.

This impacts those using ChromeOS, if I read it right. Disney May want to support that. Isn’t ChromeOS Linux under the hood?

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Re: Disney+ streaming uses draconian DRM

#46
post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While I agree with the philosophy that Disney should try to support as many platforms as possible, I really don't think it will notice the Linux market is missing. Cost of building and maintaining a Linux client > Potential revenue from Linux users.

This impacts those using ChromeOS, if I read it right. Disney May want to support that. Isn’t ChromeOS Linux under the hood?

ChromeOS does use the Linux kernel.

Re: Disney+ streaming uses draconian DRM

#47

So, at least from my basic research, the levels seem to be switched in this post: L1 is the highest level, not L3. So if Android and Desktop Linuxes support L1, that should not be an issue. Perhaps its is a minor error and he meant L3. That being said, is it possible for the user to have their Desktop Linux support L1 somehow? Android is a Linux that clearly support L1 and can show these formats (I imagine), so can t…

Android depends on the hardware, but generally speaking Western devices support Widevine Level 1 and its implemented in hardware. Desktop Linux will only ever support Level 3.

But Chrome on Windows also supports Level 3, and Disney+ works in Chrome, there, so the article isn't correct.

Re: Disney+ streaming uses draconian DRM

#50
post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While I agree with the philosophy that Disney should try to support as many platforms as possible, I really don't think it will notice the Linux market is missing. Cost of building and maintaining a Linux client > Potential revenue from Linux users.

This impacts those using ChromeOS, if I read it right. Disney May want to support that. Isn’t ChromeOS Linux under the hood?

Yeah ChromeOS is Linux under the hood. Probably the most mainstream desktop class OS based on Linux. A family member's Windows laptop quit booting up, and wanted a new one. Talked them into a Chromebook since they mostly just use the web, and didn't want to spend a lot of money. Figured ChromeOS would be less bloated than the other traditional desktop OSes too, especially if not wanting to spend a lot on hardware as I feel a similarly priced Windows laptop would be slow probably due to the lower hardware.

Wouldn't surprise me if a lot of kids have Chromebooks too, which would be Disney's target. There's some decent models that are cheap and probably more secure than just giving them a Windows Laptop.

Also recently they added official support for Linux apps themselves, that's in beta called Crostini. They run inside of a container. But before then no Linux apps could be installed even though it's Linux under the hood, but I know there was some unofficial ways.

I was apart of the CR-48 beta where they sent out free laptops to test with. Surprised they did that in the first place, but it just sits in the closet now and very slow, no longer gets updates but used to use it alot more when it was new and feeling special since part of the beta program. So with Linux support, part of me wants to buy a newer one. Could run Node and VSCode on a Chromebook!

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