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Disney+ streaming uses draconian DRM

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Re: Disney+ streaming uses draconian DRM

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Post by tolmasky »

reaperducer wrote: post #13
mindcrime wrote: post #9

Interesting. I'd been toying with signing up for Disney+ at some point (when does it even go live officially?). But if this is the case, I absolutely won't be getting a subscription as I use Linux as my desktop OS. "No Linux support" == "no customer"

While I agree with the philosophy that Disney should try to support as many platforms as possible, I really don't think it will notice the Linux market is missing. Cost of building and maintaining a Linux client > Potential revenue from Linux users.

If its true that this includes Chromebooks, it could definitely affect a lot of people.

Re: Disney+ streaming uses draconian DRM

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Post by XorNot »

judge2020 wrote: post #17
reaperducer wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While I agree with the philosophy that Disney should try to support as many platforms as possible, I really don't think it will notice the Linux market is missing. Cost of building and maintaining a Linux client > Potential revenue from Linux users.

Looks like this is more of "requiring widevine level 2/3", their player and DRM should work with Linux Firefox and Chrome with minimal changes. > Disney+ OTOH seems to have the drm features kranked up to maximum draconian settings

So you figure maybe a week before it's all on bittorrent anyway?

Re: Disney+ streaming uses draconian DRM

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Post by edoceo »

XorNot wrote: post #23
judge2020 wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Looks like this is more of "requiring widevine level 2/3", their player and DRM should work with Linux Firefox and Chrome with minimal changes. > Disney+ OTOH seems to have the drm features kranked up to maximum draconian settings

So you figure maybe a week before it's all on bittorrent anyway?

Most of the stuff already is

Re: Disney+ streaming uses draconian DRM

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Post by mfer »

reaperducer wrote: post #13
mindcrime wrote: post #9

Interesting. I'd been toying with signing up for Disney+ at some point (when does it even go live officially?). But if this is the case, I absolutely won't be getting a subscription as I use Linux as my desktop OS. "No Linux support" == "no customer"

While I agree with the philosophy that Disney should try to support as many platforms as possible, I really don't think it will notice the Linux market is missing. Cost of building and maintaining a Linux client > Potential revenue from Linux users.

This impacts those using ChromeOS, if I read it right. Disney May want to support that.

Isn’t ChromeOS Linux under the hood?

Re: Disney+ streaming uses draconian DRM

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Post by vitus »

Nit, since this confused me when I was looking for more context: for whatever reason, Widevine security levels are ordered in decreasing security (whereas the article has them backwards).

Widevine on Linux only supports L3, which means that there's no guarantee that any processing is done inside the CPU's trusted execution environment. Which, uh, reads as "no security guarantee" to me.

Re: Disney+ streaming uses draconian DRM

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Post by Andrew_nenakhov »

yumario wrote: post #19

AmazonPrime video does not delivers HD content in Linux... I tried everything switching browsers, changing User agent, wine, running virtual box. I seems some type of DRM is not implemented yet in Linux. Netflix is the same I think. I happily pirate content now.

Publishers often refer to copying they don’t approve of as “piracy.” In this way, they imply that it is ethically equivalent to attacking ships on the high seas, kidnapping and murdering the people on them. Based on such propaganda, they have procured laws in most of the world to forbid copying in most (or sometimes all) circumstances. (They are still pressuring to make these prohibitions more complete.)

If you don’t believe that copying not approved by the publisher is just like kidnapping and murder, you might prefer not to use the word “piracy” to describe it.

Re: Disney+ streaming uses draconian DRM

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Post by debaserab2 »

cameronbrown wrote: post #16
reaperducer wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While I agree with the philosophy that Disney should try to support as many platforms as possible, I really don't think it will notice the Linux market is missing. Cost of building and maintaining a Linux client > Potential revenue from Linux users.

Cost of building a Linux client should be zero. It's not because they want to have their proprietary DRM/spyware restricting what you can do. Ever heard the phrase "piracy is a better service", Disney? Edit: Cost should be negligible. You should build for web/browser standards, not the OS.

Why would the cost of supporting an additional platform ever be zero?

Re: Disney+ streaming uses draconian DRM

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Post by OrgNet »

crispinb wrote: post #4

> instead send them a message letting them know that you are boycotting them until they get their Linux support in order A boycott from all 12 desktop Linux users. That'll show 'em.

it's worth a try, if you care (I pay for Netflix and I don't use it because it's easier to download the content somewhere else)... my Sharp "smart" TV will even stop supporting Netflix in December because they say the old software will no longer be compatible.

Re: Disney+ streaming uses draconian DRM

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Post by Vaslo »

“First of all, as always my opinions are my own, not those of my employer.”

Why do you need to write that? It’s a benign article and more so it’s about as protective as the useless “Store is not responsible for carts that damage your car” signs.

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