Love this: HN link to Reddit screenshot of a Twitter thread. Welcome to the modern web.
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#42Funny thing is that it works. 15% CR uplift in the last website where I tested it
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#43There's a product I've bought regularly at Amazon, it perpetually has 3 or less left in stock, but never goes out of stock. Also I was buying airline tickets and Delta told me there were just 2 left at this price for ... a plane nearly 70% empty.
> Also I was buying airline tickets and Delta told me there were just 2 left at this price for ... a plane nearly 70% empty.
I don't think that's a contradiction given how many price tiers there are. Next price may only be $5 higher though.
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#44So some manager came up with this, tasked a PO, who tasked a team, and a frontend developer implemented it - and in this chain, in the end, everyone complied. I know it's not like murder, but especially in a field where it's so easy to hop into another job/project, one should have greater integrity.
Can't assume they don't have integrity. They might just have different moral values. I would gladly implement this any day. Its not illegal.
> Its not illegal.
Fulfilling your basic legal obligations is not the definition of integrity, and often the two are at odds.
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#45I want to add Hanlon's razor to this. Some are pointing straight to malice and intentional misleading. It wouldn’t surprise me if they wanted to make it genuinely work originally, but realised they could save a lot of money, resources and sprints just faking it in js. More laziness and “oh shit this project was bigger than we thought let’s find a shortcut” than outright malice.
That's not Hanlon's razor: they had a moment where they commit an act of fraud by intent, not by incompetent behaviour.
The point is, rather than setting out to maliciously deceive people it could have just been laziness.
There’s multiple angles to what could have happened.
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#46I have two reactions: 1) lol 2) This should be illegal.
Might be unlawful anyway, if you could argue that you were sold "a plane ticket being considered by 38 people" rather than just "a plane ticket".
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#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
Can't assume they don't have integrity. They might just have different moral values. I would gladly implement this any day. Its not illegal.
> Its not illegal. Fulfilling your basic legal obligations is not the definition of integrity , and often the two are at odds.
what is your definition of integrity ?
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#48I want to add Hanlon's razor to this. Some are pointing straight to malice and intentional misleading. It wouldn’t surprise me if they wanted to make it genuinely work originally, but realised they could save a lot of money, resources and sprints just faking it in js. More laziness and “oh shit this project was bigger than we thought let’s find a shortcut” than outright malice.
For another example: for about two years, Twitter on the web had a feature in the notifications section, a dropdown on each notification item with a "See less often" option which appeared to the user to send feedback or preferences to Twitter, but in reality sent nothing.
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#49I like that these things are being revealed and I previously read stories that these techniques were getting less effective since more people are aware of them. That's at least half the battle. Legal punishment of this behavior is not something I think I would support since I would be worried about it being impossible or at least very hard to enforce properly.
Governments the last few decades seem to insist on the power to seize the electronic money of just about anyone. Not sure that's a happy development, but as the capability's there anyway, couldn't one just serve the advertiser an order to defend their false claim in court and take the fine out of their bank accounts if they don't show? I'm being facetious here, but not entirely.
> Governments the last few decades seem to insist on the power to seize the electronic money of just about anyone.
Going tangential here but that is why Bitcoin is so powerful. Because it takes that power away from government.
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#50And I always assumed they use some sockets to sync that count from server. How dumb to just fake on the client side.