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Re: Ask HN: Feasible Alternative to the MacBook Pro?

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Post by xfr » Sun, Oct 20, 2019, 12:59 PM UTC

dotancohen wrote: post #186

mherrmann wrote: post #48

I switched from MBP to a Dell XPS 13 with Ubuntu. I compare the experience to living in a hotel vs. living at home [1]. In a hotel (=on Mac), everything is stylish and cared for, but you have very little freedom to change things. At home (=on Linux), you need to do the dishes yourself but there's no external agenda. It's simply yours. I'm very happy with the switch. Though I'm on (Debian+) Xfce now instead of Ubuntu…

> I compare the experience to living in a hotel vs. living at home This is very apt. If we've all grown out of our parents' basements when we left /., then let me share my own analogy. When SSHing into different servers I used to bring my .vimrc and .bashrc along with me, because how could you live without them? Likewise for switching computers, you bring along your config files. When a new job required me to be at l…

This is straight up misogynistic and is a great example of why women are driven away from our industry, because of language like this.

Re: Ask HN: Feasible Alternative to the MacBook Pro?

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Post by [deleted] » Sun, Oct 20, 2019, 1:04 PM UTC

tjpnz wrote: post #193

dotancohen wrote: post #186

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I compare the experience to living in a hotel vs. living at home This is very apt. If we've all grown out of our parents' basements when we left /., then let me share my own analogy. When SSHing into different servers I used to bring my .vimrc and .bashrc along with me, because how could you live without them? Likewise for switching computers, you bring along your config files. When a new job required me to be at l…

Why the downvotes?

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Re: Ask HN: Feasible Alternative to the MacBook Pro?

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Post by tasuki » Sun, Oct 20, 2019, 1:04 PM UTC

JDiculous wrote: post #41

It depends on what your priorities are, but I recently bought a LG Gram 17" and absolutely love it. It has a massive 17" 2560-1600 screen, yet is as light as a Macbook Air, and practically as thin too. 13 hour battery life, and super comfortable keyboard. Even the charger is smaller and lighter than any other I've seen. Honestly I've never seen anything like this in my life, and only $1,448 ( https://amzn.to/2P2txdv…

Never heard about the LG Gram - looks pretty nice! How is the chassis?

Re: Ask HN: Feasible Alternative to the MacBook Pro?

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Post by pm7 » Sun, Oct 20, 2019, 1:07 PM UTC

chillee wrote: post #52

longtom wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I also moved to Windows 10 and X1 Carbon (6th Gen) after using Apple products all my life and I've never looked back. That being said, my X1 also went three times to repair. I guess people have simply unlearnt how to manufacture reliable products due to the immense complexity that is involved by now, combined with a planned obsolescence mentality. It is shitty wherever you go; it's just a bit more shitty with Apple c…

IMO, if you're buying a higher end laptop it's worth shelling out for the on site warranty/accident protection. They'll send a technician to your location (typically within the week) and replace whatever parts needed for free. So you'll have essentially 0 time without your laptop. It's been excellent (used it twice: fixed a broken keycap, and a spilled drink), and gives me a ton of peace of mind.

> They'll send a technician to your location (typically within the week) and replace whatever parts needed for free.

My Dell Latitude had included "next business day" 3 years warranty. I used it twice (to get motherboard and display replaced) and they sent technician next working day. There were a bit more failures then I would expect, but warranty was great and I happily bought 2 more years (5 years total) for equivalent of about 200 USD plus tax.

Re: Ask HN: Feasible Alternative to the MacBook Pro?

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Post by krembo » Sun, Oct 20, 2019, 1:07 PM UTC

AlchemistCamp wrote: post #164

I've always been pretty happy with Asus laptops and even their iMac-like "all-in-one" computers. The high-end ones have great quality and the low-end ones still have decent quality. Another key factor for me is that unlike Apple, Asus offers good video cards!

I'm with Asus ZenBook UX461 bought more than a year ago. While it's not a super-cool brand like Macs or Surfaces (my previous laptop), the ZenBook is 1/3 of the price and monsterly-packed with hardware superior to them (i7-8550 1.88GHz, 16GB of RAM, 512GB SSD and very light and good touch screen). Did my homework, you can't beat that, and I've tried all the famous brands before.

Re: Ask HN: Feasible Alternative to the MacBook Pro?

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Post by dillonmckay » Sun, Oct 20, 2019, 1:07 PM UTC

drevil-v2 wrote: post #5

Slightly OT however for what it’s worth the new 16inch MBP with a redesigned non-butterfly keyboard is supposed to be available soon. I would suggest you hold off any laptop decision until then.

Meh.

Are you really confident this first new batch will be ok?

Re: Ask HN: Feasible Alternative to the MacBook Pro?

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Post by pbhowmic » Sun, Oct 20, 2019, 1:08 PM UTC

there isn't one for me. I am primarily a back-end dev but I also develop for iOS.

Re: Ask HN: Feasible Alternative to the MacBook Pro?

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Post by lojongCommand » Sun, Oct 20, 2019, 1:09 PM UTC

xfr wrote: post #201

dotancohen wrote: post #186

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I compare the experience to living in a hotel vs. living at home This is very apt. If we've all grown out of our parents' basements when we left /., then let me share my own analogy. When SSHing into different servers I used to bring my .vimrc and .bashrc along with me, because how could you live without them? Likewise for switching computers, you bring along your config files. When a new job required me to be at l…

This is straight up misogynistic and is a great example of why women are driven away from our industry, because of language like this.

No its not.. and people are starting to get tired of statements like this all over the forums.

Re: Ask HN: Feasible Alternative to the MacBook Pro?

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Post by computerex » Sun, Oct 20, 2019, 1:10 PM UTC

etatoby wrote: post #123

mherrmann wrote: post #48

I switched from MBP to a Dell XPS 13 with Ubuntu. I compare the experience to living in a hotel vs. living at home [1]. In a hotel (=on Mac), everything is stylish and cared for, but you have very little freedom to change things. At home (=on Linux), you need to do the dishes yourself but there's no external agenda. It's simply yours. I'm very happy with the switch. Though I'm on (Debian+) Xfce now instead of Ubuntu…

I second a ThinkPad with XFCE (such as Xubuntu) as the best combination. A few things which, although obvious in retrospect, I had to learn the hard way: • Get a ThinkPad with physical buttons under the touchpad, if you like to track with your index finger and click with the thumb. I made the mistake of getting the kind where you push the entire touchpad, and it's very hard to use. Apple's was at least useable, this…

Overall I agree with your post. There are some things I'd like to point out.

- ThinkPads have amazing linux support. Dells aren't bad either. I have used a few dell laptops with linux as my daily drivers and no issues. Currently typing this on a Latitude E7450 and have had everything working out of the box.

- I am using a USB wired connection without issues, works out of the box.

- Currently using Manjaro linux and enjoying the heck out of it. Haven't done a reinstall in over a year and it's very stable across updates.

Re: Ask HN: Feasible Alternative to the MacBook Pro?

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Post by computerex » Sun, Oct 20, 2019, 1:14 PM UTC

xfr wrote: post #201

dotancohen wrote: post #186

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I compare the experience to living in a hotel vs. living at home This is very apt. If we've all grown out of our parents' basements when we left /., then let me share my own analogy. When SSHing into different servers I used to bring my .vimrc and .bashrc along with me, because how could you live without them? Likewise for switching computers, you bring along your config files. When a new job required me to be at l…

This is straight up misogynistic and is a great example of why women are driven away from our industry, because of language like this.

While it is a very unusual metaphor, I don't see how it is misogyny or derogatory against women. This is wildly off-topic but I'd be interested to hear your thoughts.