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Re: Tina is not a CMS

#11

Post by pinky07 » Sun, Oct 20, 2019, 9:10 AM UTC

andretti1977 wrote: post #10

I love static sites and made some using Hugo. A year later i've started working with WordPress and its ugly/nice (it depends) Gutenberg editor and to be honest, having a look at the quality (yes, there are a lot of excellent plugins and a lot of bad ones) and the availabilty of plugins,i think WordPress is the only platform to go for business oriented websites where seo, caching and other things matters a lot. I've b…

Did you try the Odoo website builder? It is less cluttered than Gutenberg and support inline edition of dynamic content like TinaCMS (e.g. change product price, name, ...):

https://www.odoo.com/page/website-builder

Disclaimer: I am the founder of Odoo

Re: Tina is not a CMS

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Post by pythonbase » Sun, Oct 20, 2019, 9:32 AM UTC

andretti1977 wrote: post #10

I love static sites and made some using Hugo. A year later i've started working with WordPress and its ugly/nice (it depends) Gutenberg editor and to be honest, having a look at the quality (yes, there are a lot of excellent plugins and a lot of bad ones) and the availabilty of plugins,i think WordPress is the only platform to go for business oriented websites where seo, caching and other things matters a lot. I've b…

Good to hear some good words about WordPress here at HN. I am working with WordPress based sites since ver 1.5. WP, in trained hands, can do wonders. It can be used as a back-end framework accessible via APIs and can also be used to serve static content.

Re: Tina is not a CMS

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Post by pythonbase » Sun, Oct 20, 2019, 9:37 AM UTC

pinky07 wrote: post #11

andretti1977 wrote: post #10

I love static sites and made some using Hugo. A year later i've started working with WordPress and its ugly/nice (it depends) Gutenberg editor and to be honest, having a look at the quality (yes, there are a lot of excellent plugins and a lot of bad ones) and the availabilty of plugins,i think WordPress is the only platform to go for business oriented websites where seo, caching and other things matters a lot. I've b…

Did you try the Odoo website builder? It is less cluttered than Gutenberg and support inline edition of dynamic content like TinaCMS (e.g. change product price, name, ...): https://www.odoo.com/page/website-builder Disclaimer: I am the founder of Odoo

Odoo is huge. I have interacted with some parts of it. Congratulations on building a fine product like this.

Re: Tina is not a CMS

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Post by mjsweet » Sun, Oct 20, 2019, 9:42 AM UTC

andretti1977 wrote: post #10

I love static sites and made some using Hugo. A year later i've started working with WordPress and its ugly/nice (it depends) Gutenberg editor and to be honest, having a look at the quality (yes, there are a lot of excellent plugins and a lot of bad ones) and the availabilty of plugins,i think WordPress is the only platform to go for business oriented websites where seo, caching and other things matters a lot. I've b…

I have to back you up here, ultimately I just want to get landing pages and websites done, and Wordpress + Divi gives me that... I’m also now using Wordpress as a static site generator with WP2Static plugin and deploying to Netlify, so now I can get 4x100 for LightHouse. I’ve experimented with Hugo, middleman, Eleventy, Gatsby, Gridsome, Nuxt, Sapper and a bunch of others... but I really just want to hammer out high-performance (page speed and SEO) sites quickly and easily. I hate to say this because I love Gatsby to bits, but ultimately the customer pays for sales instruments from me not my CAAS / JAMStack fetish and tinkering with the latest frameworks. Now I need wordpress forms that integrate with Netlify functions and I’m sorted.

Re: Tina is not a CMS

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Post by kissgyorgy » Sun, Oct 20, 2019, 10:13 AM UTC

It is very nice though not new, Lektor did this for years now: https://www.getlektor.com/

Re: Tina is not a CMS

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Post by mistersquid » Sun, Oct 20, 2019, 11:09 AM UTC

hapidjus wrote: post #3

Napoleon Dynamite reference?

At risk of stating the obvious, "TinaCMS" is a recursive acronym similar to GNU.

This doesn't necessarily prevent "Tina" from having another referent except then "TinaCMS" wouldn't a recursive acronym.

Re: Tina is not a CMS

#17

Post by stickfigure » Sun, Oct 20, 2019, 11:14 AM UTC

andretti1977 wrote: post #10

I love static sites and made some using Hugo. A year later i've started working with WordPress and its ugly/nice (it depends) Gutenberg editor and to be honest, having a look at the quality (yes, there are a lot of excellent plugins and a lot of bad ones) and the availabilty of plugins,i think WordPress is the only platform to go for business oriented websites where seo, caching and other things matters a lot. I've b…

A few years ago I did some emergency consulting for a friend whose WordPress site had been hacked. Moving it (to cloud hosted WP) wasn't just "back up the database, restore it" but also copying a dizzying array of files haphazardly strewn across the local filesystem. Performance was atrocious no matter the hardware. Even if the core is (finally?) reasonably secure, installing plugins is like playing Russian roulette. The closer I looked at how it works, the worse the impression I got.

Pick anything else.

Re: Tina is not a CMS

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Post by Bombthecat » Sun, Oct 20, 2019, 11:21 AM UTC

stickfigure wrote: post #17

andretti1977 wrote: post #10

I love static sites and made some using Hugo. A year later i've started working with WordPress and its ugly/nice (it depends) Gutenberg editor and to be honest, having a look at the quality (yes, there are a lot of excellent plugins and a lot of bad ones) and the availabilty of plugins,i think WordPress is the only platform to go for business oriented websites where seo, caching and other things matters a lot. I've b…

A few years ago I did some emergency consulting for a friend whose WordPress site had been hacked. Moving it (to cloud hosted WP) wasn't just "back up the database, restore it" but also copying a dizzying array of files haphazardly strewn across the local filesystem. Performance was atrocious no matter the hardware. Even if the core is (finally?) reasonably secure, installing plugins is like playing Russian roulette.…

WordPress without varnish just does not work...

Re: Tina is not a CMS

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Post by jpatters » Sun, Oct 20, 2019, 11:22 AM UTC

BossingAround wrote: post #5

Wow, this looks pretty amazing. I can totally see setting up a Gatsby site with the Tina plugin as a website for small or medium businesses. For me, personally, I'm happy with VCS-centric workflow... I push a change to git, Netlify picks it up, and fires the build process automatically. I think that'd need to be sovled for small businesses, as the changes are local only (and considering that such a blog is very likel…

> I think that'd need to be sovled for small businesses, as the changes are local only

This is exactly why we created Tina Teams (https://tinacms.org/teams). We will start sending early access invites in 2 weeks.

Re: Tina is not a CMS

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Post by glaberficken » Sun, Oct 20, 2019, 11:23 AM UTC

>"using a CMS feels more like filing your taxes than editing a website"

Loved this quote. I've recently realized this when trying to get a family member (millennial generation) to understand how to edit the simple website she had created using wordpress.