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'Women write more expressive, sensitive code'

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Re: 'Women write more expressive, sensitive code'

#11

I've been in this business a long time and have yet to meet any women who write code.

I've been in this "business" for a short time, and I've met several. Which goes to show you, your personal experience is generally a bad foundation for making sweeping generalizations.

I just consider dev-shops that are female dominated to be Black Swans. They haven't happened, and they are unlikely to exist right now, but they certainly could have occurred if some social factors were different, and they certainly might in the future...

Re: 'Women write more expressive, sensitive code'

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What a load of sexist bullshit. I've worked with several women coders. Some were better than others. It's only possible to make this kind of ridiculous blanket statement because so few women coders exist in the first place. Small sample size, nada mas.

(Yes, I accused a woman of being sexist. If that doesn't make sense to you please Google sexism instead of bothering me.)

Re: 'Women write more expressive, sensitive code'

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This article is disgusting.

There's one source, and she's...playa hating, to say the least.

Advocating underrepresented minorities is like riding a tank. It's fun, nobody will disagree with you, and if a "tank man" (cf. Tiananmen square) shows up, you can effectively lynch him (cf. Lawrence Summers, James Watson).

Now, blatant reverse sexism aside, is the writer correct? There's one source, who may be an itsy-bit biased, but yeah, I believe it. It could be true that women document more. I don't think that they're categorically superior coders, though, as this article seems to imply, and I'm not exactly eager to work at that database company.

Re: 'Women write more expressive, sensitive code'

#16
"The superwoman of code ..... forcing men to write more detailed accounts of their coding issues, and expressing their programming problems before each new block of code is written"

You know much better your programming problems after starting writting code. Prototyping facilitates thinking and designing. The "superwoman" is clueless.

Re: 'Women write more expressive, sensitive code'

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I assume this is a parody, and as such, it is very well done. If not, I can only assume that women has never met Steve Yegge.

It is not a parody. If you follow the link to the original article, you can see that she is just claiming that women are better at documenting code, which is a reasonable hypothesis. The Inquirer on their own account added the slant about womens code being more "sensitive" and so on, probably to make here look like an idiot. (Also fun to see how "user-friendly and gender-neutral" coding standards in WSJ becomes "woma…

In any case, I absolutely loathe the kind of coding standards she is trying to enforce. It sounds like micromanagement bullshit, forcing developers to do stuff they resent. The extreme endresult are those comments on getters and setters in Java:

/ * gets the variable */

int getVariable() {...}

I could scream and climb up walls when I see that or worse, have to write that. If you don't write the comment, though, some fascist "quality control" algorithm will show a read flag and make the managers unhappy.

I thought the consent by now was that understandable code is to be preferred over comments, especially since comments have a tendency to become stale.

Re: 'Women write more expressive, sensitive code'

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Explain the statistical reasoning behind "since there are fewer, you expect them to be better".

My reasoning is: because of male dominance and stereotypes in IT, women will think twice about entering the field. Therefore the ones who choose it, will be more passionate and determined than the average male colleague. It is just my theory, I have never seen any statistical evidence one way or the other.

Fair enough.

Re: 'Women write more expressive, sensitive code'

#19

And men write more code, period.

I guess I should have made the tongue-in-cheek humor a bit more obvious (my reply was referring to the sensationalist headlines) - I actually have two brilliant women working for me and their coding is awesome :)
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