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Mark Hurd Has Died

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Re: Mark Hurd Has Died

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Post by Ididntdothis »

VonGuard wrote: post #15

I feel really bad for Hurd and his family. Why work that hard? The 24/7 CEO lifestyle seems like such a waste of time if you end up working it to the day you die. Like, why work that hard? For the family you never see? The vacation home you can visit for 5 days a year? The yacht you leave parked 360 days a year? The job is so demanding and so hard it seems like Mark worked himself to death, literally. He probably cou…

I don’t believe these guys do it just for the money. They probably really like it and also have a talent for it. Same for running for political office. You have to like it and also be good at it. Otherwise I don’t think you can get to that level.

Re: Mark Hurd Has Died

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Post by AlexanderNull »

VonGuard wrote: post #15

I feel really bad for Hurd and his family. Why work that hard? The 24/7 CEO lifestyle seems like such a waste of time if you end up working it to the day you die. Like, why work that hard? For the family you never see? The vacation home you can visit for 5 days a year? The yacht you leave parked 360 days a year? The job is so demanding and so hard it seems like Mark worked himself to death, literally. He probably cou…

Some people like the struggle. There's an entire industry built off of making money from this human drive in called the Video Game industry after all. Think about all of the games which get lambasted for being too easy, hell just look at the release of Classic WoW where plenty of people are still devoting time to a 15 year old game largely because it required a lot of work to succeed in.

Some people bury themselves in their job, some people bury themselves in work, some people in video games, it's ultimately based on the same drive to achieve something based on a struggle.

Re: Mark Hurd Has Died

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Post by BlameKaneda »

VonGuard wrote: post #15

I feel really bad for Hurd and his family. Why work that hard? The 24/7 CEO lifestyle seems like such a waste of time if you end up working it to the day you die. Like, why work that hard? For the family you never see? The vacation home you can visit for 5 days a year? The yacht you leave parked 360 days a year? The job is so demanding and so hard it seems like Mark worked himself to death, literally. He probably cou…

When I read your comment, this article was the first thing that came to mind: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/its-later-than-you-think-j-r-...

HN discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20928570

Re: Mark Hurd Has Died

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Post by mayukh »

johnpowell wrote: post #86
eigenvalue wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Without knowing the cause of death, I think it's premature to say that he worked himself to death. It was probably some kind of cancer that probably would have happened anyway. The bigger question I think is, if he could do it over again, would he have tried to spend more of his short time on earth with his family and relaxing/enjoying life rather than working? And even that is not so clear cut-- it may well be that…

Last year I was diagnosed with neck/mouth cancer. I did three months of radiation and chemo and it cleared it up. Then two months later I went in for a PET scan and the cancer had spread to my liver. So more ration for that. Then six months later another PET scan and the cancer popped up in a new place on my liver. I'm currently on Pembrolizumab and my oncologist wants to give that a few months and see how the lesion…

Thank you for sharing your perspective. Wishing you the best. You can consider having added some valuable food for thought in one person's thinking about this disease and how we choose to spend our limited time on this planet.

Re: Mark Hurd Has Died

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Post by cardiffspaceman »

bluedevil2k wrote: post #26
spinach wrote: post #22

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Cause it's easy to get the estimate of a man by the woman they date/marry.

That comment is incredibly demeaning to women

> > Cause it's easy to get the estimate of a man by the woman they date/marry.

> Cause it's easy to get the estimate of a person by the people they date/marry.

I think the second one is true. Not as true as some things. But if it is true then the first is true, since the second is more universal.

> Many people believe they can estimate a person by the people the person dates/marries.

It's possible Hurd believed this. Whether he thought he was moving the needle in his favor by any of his actions is probably unknowable.

I see why you read the comment the way you did, and I suggest there is a different reading.

Re: Mark Hurd Has Died

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Post by mayukh »

VonGuard wrote: post #15

I feel really bad for Hurd and his family. Why work that hard? The 24/7 CEO lifestyle seems like such a waste of time if you end up working it to the day you die. Like, why work that hard? For the family you never see? The vacation home you can visit for 5 days a year? The yacht you leave parked 360 days a year? The job is so demanding and so hard it seems like Mark worked himself to death, literally. He probably cou…

This seems a short-sighted and judgmental view on someone I assume you do not know well personally. What if he loved what he did ? What if he did manage to spend quality time with his loved ones (We all wish we had more)? What if he hated vacations and itched to get back to the action at work? To each his own.

Re: Mark Hurd Has Died

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Post by robocat »

blahblah72o wrote: post #90
eigenvalue wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Without knowing the cause of death, I think it's premature to say that he worked himself to death. It was probably some kind of cancer that probably would have happened anyway. The bigger question I think is, if he could do it over again, would he have tried to spend more of his short time on earth with his family and relaxing/enjoying life rather than working? And even that is not so clear cut-- it may well be that…

It was with 100% certainty cancer. He was wearing a wig at one point. No idea what type, but cancer, 100%. Hard to say it was caused by working too hard.

There is no clear cause and effect that chronic stress can cause cancer: https://www.healthline.com/health/can-stress-cause-cancer

Although there is plenty of suspicion that it can (even if indirectly through stress related lifestyle choices like smoking, alcohol, poor food).

Re: Mark Hurd Has Died

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Post by clavalle »

VonGuard wrote: post #15

I feel really bad for Hurd and his family. Why work that hard? The 24/7 CEO lifestyle seems like such a waste of time if you end up working it to the day you die. Like, why work that hard? For the family you never see? The vacation home you can visit for 5 days a year? The yacht you leave parked 360 days a year? The job is so demanding and so hard it seems like Mark worked himself to death, literally. He probably cou…

For some of the best, making and guiding companies is their art and obsession.

That's the nice take on it.

For others (or from a different perspective) for some making money itself is a bit of an addiction that swallows everything else.

I know a great guy -- very kind, very smart. But he doesn't really know how to have fun if he's not making money. That's his game and he's great at it. But I feel like he's missing out on a lot out of life. And he understands that on an intellectual level. But he can't imagine doing anything else.

I am personally very conflicted when it comes to people who almost insanely dedicate themselves to one pursuit. On one hand I feel sorry for them because I feel like they miss out on a lot. On the other hand, I'm very glad they exist. They do things no one else can or will do and our world is better off for it.

Re: Mark Hurd Has Died

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Post by rchaud »

luma wrote: post #54
RcouF1uZ4gsC wrote: post #44

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Agreed, but her modeling for Playboy had no part in making the relationship consequential. It is a gratuitous detail.

Why not? If modelling was her thing, a Playboy appearance is a major accomplishment.

That was a long time ago, when Playboy was relevant and a stepping stone to Baywatch, MTV or something along those lines. Can you even recall anyone who's been a cover model in the last 15 years? Or has graduated from Playboy modeling to something bigger and better?

Re: Mark Hurd Has Died

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Post by indymike »

mikeg8 wrote: post #76
_lbaq wrote: post #53

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Few old people looking back with perspective say that they worked to little...

Few old people become peak leaders in their respected field.

Actually, that's about the opposite of true. Average age of a CEO is 58. Wealth, power and experience concentrate with age...
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