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AI Detects Heart Failure from One Heartbeat: Study

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Re: AI Detects Heart Failure from One Heartbeat: Study

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Post by paulcole »

et2o wrote: post #5

I'm going to sound like a skeptical jerk here, but 490,000 heartbeats is how many patients? From what I recall these public ECG datasets are like 20 patients who underwent longitudinal ECGs. 500k heart beats is like 5 person-days of ECG recordings. Ninja Edit: N=~30 patients. For something like ECGs which are readily available, they really should have tried to get more patients. A single clinic anywhere does than 30…

> I'm going to sound like a skeptical jerk here

Well you're on the right site for it!

At least you didn't claim that you could come up with something better by tinkering on a rainy Sunday afternoon.

Re: AI Detects Heart Failure from One Heartbeat: Study

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Post by logicbombr »

smt88 wrote: post #14
logicbombr wrote: post #12

last year we've started to cloud recording obstetric ultrasound videos. we add more than 17,000 ultrasound exams to our platform each month. It's probably the largest dataset in the world of obstetric ultrasounds videos (~ 300,000 exams). reading news like this makes me think about how we can explore our dataset using ML/AI and help produce better diagnosis. I have no idea how (We're not an AI company). If someone he…

I'm not sure that data set will mean anything without human-drawn conclusions about the patient (diagnoses, abormalities, etc.)

Obstetric ultrasound is very standarized and easy to evaluate with Hadlock (https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/000293...)

We, however, have access to the report too.

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Post by fermenflo »

wil421 wrote: post #22

How long until society becomes Gattaca? Sorry citizen our “AI” has detected genetic anomalies you will be a disposable factory worker. The rich would surely pay for their children to be genetically altered.

What exactly guarantees that reality? Why can't these tools be used for good moving forward? e.g. detecting heart problems. Seems a little arbitrary to spin technological advancements as progress towards some inevitable dystopian AI-driven future.

Re: AI Detects Heart Failure from One Heartbeat: Study

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Post by forgot-my-pw »

phonebucket wrote: post #26
binalpatel wrote: post #3

Discussion of this on /r/machinelearning: https://www.reddit.com/r/MachineLearning/comments/dj5psh/n_n...

The Reddit thread is worth a read. There's a healthy dose of scepticism about the paper there.

Claiming 100% accuracy with a single heartbeat is just hard to believe

Re: AI Detects Heart Failure from One Heartbeat: Study

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Post by joker3 »

et2o wrote: post #5

I'm going to sound like a skeptical jerk here, but 490,000 heartbeats is how many patients? From what I recall these public ECG datasets are like 20 patients who underwent longitudinal ECGs. 500k heart beats is like 5 person-days of ECG recordings. Ninja Edit: N=~30 patients. For something like ECGs which are readily available, they really should have tried to get more patients. A single clinic anywhere does than 30…

A lot of machine learning people don't really understand study design or power or things like that. It's gotten a little better over the past decade or so, but this is an area where the field has a lot of room to improve.
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