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My wife likes to sit in what she calls 'the Mafia seat', the seat in a restaurant that is best-protected by walls, etc, from behind, and that gives the best view of the rest of the room, so you can see what or who is coming. She's not in the mafia or allied professions, AFAIK, but I'd wager that similar metrics are used by the professionals.
>AFAIK You better know well, all given :)
Eat, Drink and Be Wary: Ex-CIA Officer Reveals How Eateries Are Key to Spycraft
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can confirm that defense people are terrible about spilling a lot of details in public, but I don’t think I’ve ever heard an actual classified piece of info spoken in public
How would you know if the information you heard was classified or not ?
From what I’ve read, those with clearances that hear something outside of a secure area are obligated to report it immediately.
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I'd imagine the priority might be: 1) Microphone all possible tables and have them record/signal when key words are overheard 2) Befriend/seduce/bribe wait staff and train them to roam around in optimal patterns to catch conversation 3) Some kind of subtle hearing amplification/focusing device 4) Record all conversations using a device on your person and process them later
Record all conversations using a device on your person and process them later Processing and extracting multiple conversations at different levels from a single audio source automatically would be a great project to attack with some quite simple sound engineering tools and speech recognition ML.
Keywords: multiple talker speech segmentation, computational auditory scene analysis CASA
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#154Earlier quoted context omitted.
Fun fact: Using knowledge gained in this way isn't insider trading[1]. Conceivably a person could even sell tips based on information heard in public places to traders. During the golden age of Wall Street, this was extremely common. Traders or their lackeys would visit businesses (or the bars near them) and pump employees for info. [1] Not a lawyer, not legal advice.
It is insider trading if you get it by soliciting the information. It is not insider trading if you get it by simply overhearing a public conversation.
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Well they aren't liberal or conservative so much as establishment Democrat. And they regularly engage in bias by omission in their reporting.
the bias is "don't upset the apple cart". I think the complaints about it being liberal are only valid in the context of not being rabidly right-wing.
The fact that "liberal" is considered a pejorative today is testament to that.
I welcome proof otherwise.
Edit: example #1 of "neutral bias": The war on drugs is reported on in a matter of fact manner, and I've heard ZERO editorial comments that point out the insanity and wrongfulness of it. Same thing with the wars, etc.
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#156This is well known but often ignored for convenience. Go to any restaurant in the DC area around lunchtime and you'd be amazed at what you can learn from the table next to you.
Years ago--as you would judge by the names--we were walking along 14th or 15th NW and my wife overheard the following snippet: woman a: .... Anyway, that's what Bill said. woman b: But what did Hillary say? A co-worker to whom I mentioned this suggested that perhaps the business improvement district hired actors to walk about and hold such conversations.
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Sounds like what many people (perhaps your wife is one of them) subconsciously prefer and tend to, which as I've been informed on HN before (I am one of them, I'm aware I have such a preference but it's not consciously deliberate) is Zen's 'command position'. I believe it came up before in the context of office desk arrangements. In office or restaurant, wherever, I find it very uncomfortable to have things going on…
Zen Buddhism’s command position?
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#158Earlier quoted context omitted.
the bias is "don't upset the apple cart". I think the complaints about it being liberal are only valid in the context of not being rabidly right-wing.
Ha. I don't mind the downvotes (because I'm right). The "shift to the right" is pretty well documented. The fact that "liberal" is considered a pejorative today is testament to that. I welcome proof otherwise. Edit: example #1 of "neutral bias": The war on drugs is reported on in a matter of fact manner, and I've heard ZERO editorial comments that point out the insanity and wrongfulness of it. Same thing with the war…
Re: Eat, Drink and Be Wary: Ex-CIA Officer Reveals How Eateries Are Key to Spycraft
#159Earlier quoted context omitted.
the bias is "don't upset the apple cart". I think the complaints about it being liberal are only valid in the context of not being rabidly right-wing.
Ha. I don't mind the downvotes (because I'm right). The "shift to the right" is pretty well documented. The fact that "liberal" is considered a pejorative today is testament to that. I welcome proof otherwise. Edit: example #1 of "neutral bias": The war on drugs is reported on in a matter of fact manner, and I've heard ZERO editorial comments that point out the insanity and wrongfulness of it. Same thing with the war…