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San Francisco, Hostage to the Homeless

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Re: San Francisco, Hostage to the Homeless

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"If San Francisco wanted to give its homeless addicts their best shot at stability, it would go after the open-air drug trade with every possible tool, including immigration law"

"Taxpayer subsidies should go to citizens, not individuals who are defying the rule of law."

"The tales veer from one confused and improbable situation to the next, against a backdrop of drug use, petty crime, and chaotic child-rearing. Behind this chaos lies the dissolution of those traditional social structures that once gave individuals across the economic spectrum the ability to withstand setbacks and lead sober, self-disciplined lives: marriage, parents who know how to parent, and conventional life scripts that create purpose and meaning."

This is all indistinguishable from fascist rhetoric. The author presumably has no problem with the wealthy doing drugs, sleeping around, and violating laws, but simply cannot tolerate living beside the disenfranchised and poor.

Re: San Francisco, Hostage to the Homeless

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Something annoying about this kind of reporting is that the writer constantly refers to the homeless population as a monolithic group called "the homeless."

The writer ascribes all kinds of attitudes and beliefs onto them, ostensibly based on the writer's interactions with homeless people in investigating this story.

There's a weird self-fulfilling prophecy going on in which the writer only interacts with homeless people who are behaving in the way the writer would like them to. You aren't, for instance, going to get a homeless person who doesn't do drugs to test your fentanyl for you.

Feels like an inherently biased sort of investigation.

Re: San Francisco, Hostage to the Homeless

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San Francisco in 2019 arguably has more wealth concentrated within it than any place at any other time in history.

Making poor and mentally ill people sleep on the street is a choice you have made as a society. Places with far, far fewer resources have somehow managed to sort this problem out.

Re: San Francisco, Hostage to the Homeless

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"If San Francisco wanted to give its homeless addicts their best shot at stability, it would go after the open-air drug trade with every possible tool, including immigration law" "Taxpayer subsidies should go to citizens, not individuals who are defying the rule of law." "The tales veer from one confused and improbable situation to the next, against a backdrop of drug use, petty crime, and chaotic child-rearing. Behi…

I'm not sure how I follow this being fascist rhetoric and I certainly don't understand how you've inferred that the author has no problem with the wealthy doing the above. Can you expand on your reasoning?

Re: San Francisco, Hostage to the Homeless

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post #7

San Francisco in 2019 arguably has more wealth concentrated within it than any place at any other time in history. Making poor and mentally ill people sleep on the street is a choice you have made as a society. Places with far, far fewer resources have somehow managed to sort this problem out.

What's the solution?

Re: San Francisco, Hostage to the Homeless

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"If San Francisco wanted to give its homeless addicts their best shot at stability, it would go after the open-air drug trade with every possible tool, including immigration law" "Taxpayer subsidies should go to citizens, not individuals who are defying the rule of law." "The tales veer from one confused and improbable situation to the next, against a backdrop of drug use, petty crime, and chaotic child-rearing. Behi…

As a Bangladeshi (and I suspect folks from almost any Asian country) these views seem to be a given, and entirely consistent with what my parents might say. I’d wager it’s a very small group of people, especially outside the West, who would consider these ideas fascist, or at all controversial.
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