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Amazon Has Transformed the Hasidic Economy

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Re: Amazon Has Transformed the Hasidic Economy

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Post by defterGoose »

LegitShady wrote: post #124
defterGoose wrote: post #87

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Kinda funny how antithetical that is to tradional conservative values regarding entitlements.

the 'conservative' here does not refer to traditional conservative politics that include those values. You're being confused by two definitions of 'conservative'.

I'm really not though. I'm aware that 'conservative' has specific religious connotations, but on the Venn diagram with political conservatism, there's a lot of overlap. Trump won many predominantly Jewish districts in the last election.

Re: Amazon Has Transformed the Hasidic Economy

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Post by joelbluminator »

logjammin wrote: post #123
joecool1029 wrote: post #62

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Understand that the way Buzzfeed covered it obscures the very real fact that there's a huge amount of controversy regarding this specific Satmar Hasidic community. This is not a question of Antisemitism, there have been very real issues directly caused by prominent rabbis within this community. These controversies are known to pretty much anyone in the NY metro area, so it makes sense that the NYTimes (being located…

Not to mention child sexual abuse scandals in these communities in the NYC area. Edit: hadn't seen an earlier poster's comment on this, my bad. Edit 2: it's worth mentioning that the fraud/welfare issue is a massive political hot-button topic in Israel: many Israelis resent having to pay taxes to support hasidim who in many cases don't contribute to society: they don't serve in the army, they don't work, they don't g…

In Israel the orthodox are 12% and growing rapidly, in 30 years they will constitute about 30% of Israeli Jews. In the u.s they are tiny and insignificant. Like the Amish.

Re: Amazon Has Transformed the Hasidic Economy

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Post by LegitShady »

defterGoose wrote: post #151
LegitShady wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

the 'conservative' here does not refer to traditional conservative politics that include those values. You're being confused by two definitions of 'conservative'.

I'm really not though. I'm aware that 'conservative' has specific religious connotations, but on the Venn diagram with political conservatism, there's a lot of overlap. Trump won many predominantly Jewish districts in the last election.

Nonetheless the values of receiving and giving charity are more common in the community in question than your comment about conservative values, because conservative doesn't mean "trump supporter" or "same values as Republican party".

So aware or not your previous comment was wrong in every way because you cannot or will not separate different meanings of "conservative".

You smeared all with one brush and your subsequent worldview is just as nonsensical as one would expect from such a nonsensical approach to viewing others.

Your comment was the opposite of insight - anyone who read your comment was actively mislead. You are fake news.

Re: Amazon Has Transformed the Hasidic Economy

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Post by OJFord »

toasterlovin wrote: post #146
OJFord wrote: post #111

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Biweekly is twice per week just like biannually is twice per anum. Fortnightly and biennially are 'every other'.

A bicycle is not half a wheel, it is two wheels. If bi-annual is twice a year, then why does the word semi-annual exist? And I’m American, we don’t use the word fortnight unless we’re pretending to be British.

> then why does the word semi-annual exist

My large Collins dictionary suggests that biannual means twice per year, while semi-annual has more of a hint at 'six-monthly', i.e. evenly space (which makes sense if you think semi-circle, semi-detached, etc.).

> And I’m American, we don’t use the word fortnight unless we’re pretending to be British.

Ah well there's the problem! ;) But well, yes, of course if you remove the word for something from your vocabulary there's going to be ambiguity when a similar one is used. Or just stick to 'every [other] week' and remove biweekly too.

Re: Amazon Has Transformed the Hasidic Economy

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Post by Digit-Al »

diN0bot wrote: post #135
toasterlovin wrote: post #105

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For some reason the bi-weekly vs. semi-weekly thing doesn't confuse me, but I take your point and the dictionary seems to agree that it can mean either every two weeks or twice a week.

fort-weekly

The 'fort' is short for fourteen, so fort-weekly would be every fourteen weeks.

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Post by Wowfunhappy »

ryanlol wrote: post #147
heavenlyblue wrote: post #116

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Speaking of which: Amazon (and ebay, too) had recently started using a UK-based service called Yodel. Last time Yodel had delivered a parcel of $50 to my door (marking it as delivered), which obviously got stolen. You can’t call Yodel - their line is always busy, and the line is not a free number. Yodel had done that regularly to me, but I could never contact them or do anything about my delivery, since their custome…

>Is there any way to set it up in Amazon (or ebay, too) so that their fulfillment never uses a certain delivery brand? Amazon support was able to do this for me. They also CC:d me on a really strongly worded email to the delivery company, which I found really surprising. This was one of the euro amazons with european support staff.

Did it actually work? Did they actually stop using that delivery company for your packages (and is the company common enough for this to not be random chance)?

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Post by lonelappde »

CamelCaseName wrote: post #100
Alupis wrote: post #92

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> I wonder if the vendor gets his money earlier from Amazon if he delivered it faster No - Amazon pays sellers every other week.

This is not necessarily true. Some sellers can request disbursement at any time. For a breakdown of when Amazon pays sellers, see [0]. In this case, the only delay is the 7 day holding period after the latest possible delivery date. For example, if you sell and deliver a product on Jan 1st, you may be able to disburse the funds as soon as the 8th. However! This example does not hold for the situation described by the…

A lot of assumptions there. Why is delivery from the he vendor unprofessional and unreliable, compared to Amazon who hires anyone off the street as independent contractors to handle deliveries?

It's a very oligopolistic view to say only Amazon and a few big companies are trustworthy logistics providers.

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Post by toasterlovin »

benj111 wrote: post #150
toasterlovin wrote: post #146

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A bicycle is not half a wheel, it is two wheels. If bi-annual is twice a year, then why does the word semi-annual exist? And I’m American, we don’t use the word fortnight unless we’re pretending to be British.

"why does the word semi-annual exist" Your parent already provided the counterpoint, Biennially. Additionally I'm not convinced by your bicycle => 2 => bi annual logic. You could equally argue it leads to 2 times a year, because it doesn't happen a half every year just like a bike doesn't have half a wheel.

Mostly I'm just arguing that it's ambiguous. I don't have a strong opinion, but the person I was responding to did and it seems like a silly thing to be so adamant about.

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Post by lonelappde »

Smithalicious wrote: post #109
toasterlovin wrote: post #105

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For some reason the bi-weekly vs. semi-weekly thing doesn't confuse me, but I take your point and the dictionary seems to agree that it can mean either every two weeks or twice a week.

It confuses me because I regularly hear "bi-weekly" to mean "twice per week". I don't think I've ever heard someone say semi-weekly. Usually you can make a good guess of the intended meaning from context, but the two time intervals are similar enough that it's frequently ambiguous.

A lot of people dictionary words incorrectly and the dictionary unfortunately adapts and decays the language into incomprehensibility. That doesn't make correct usage wrong.

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Post by toasterlovin »

aserafini wrote: post #144
Smithalicious wrote: post #98

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God I hate the word bi-weekly; if you hadn't specified 14 days I would've thought it was twice a week. "bi-weekly" is never the right word to use because you always have to add additional information that makes it redundant.

Fortnightly is how I would express every 14 days.

Americans don't generally use that word.
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