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Re: Open-source apps removed from Google Play Store due to donation links

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Really? Because Chrome allows me to navigate to all manner of sketchy sites- should Google be dropping Chrome? I mean, it's about as specious of reasoning as claiming that financial regulators will go after Google over donation buttons in apps. At that point, the whole thing is so far removed that it feels like being worried over getting struck by lightning. Heck, Chrome will even autofill a saved card into a donatio…

Google does not exercise significant control over what websites a user can visit with Chrome. They certainly don't maintain a whitelist. Some might opine that the Play store is perhaps a slightly different matter. It may also be worth considering that actions can, at some times and in some situations, be taken by human beings for multiple reasons with multiple independent motivations. All of which are real, genuine r…

They maintain a blacklist though, called Google Safe Browsing. Perhaps Bitcoin sites should be added to that to prevent money laundering. Pornographers should be licensed, otherwise omitted from search results.

Too many adverse effects you say? Sorry, that's just the way it is, no use complaining.

Re: Open-source apps removed from Google Play Store due to donation links

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Your rhetorical is not equivalent. Google Play Store is a marketplace. Google facilitates transactions -- from users to app developers. Some transactions are free, but Google's financial partnerships might mandate that certain regulations apply to the entire Google Play Store ecosystem. I could be wrong, but I'd reckon this is a grey area and Google is opting to avoid the problem altogether (IMO a bad choice). This w…

They haven't chosen to just "not do that". They've chosen to pre-emptively cover their arse against a risk less likely than an asteroid hitting Earth by just nuking the apps. There's another thread on HN about this right now - I don't know how these people can like, exist, in this world, with every one of the hairs on their head individually combed into a perfect slick. Can you even eat breakfast without worrying abo…

Honestly, I'm in agreement with you.

You're right, and the Google is wrong.

Re: Open-source apps removed from Google Play Store due to donation links

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What you're asking for is technology literacy, similar to science literacy. Adults generally don't care to learn this stuff. But you can teach the next generation.

I want to do this with my nieces and nephew, if they and their parents are willing. I think I already screwed up, though, when I bought Amazon Fire tablets for three of them for Christmas in 2017. Granted, they were around 3 years old at the time, so maybe they couldn't handle anything more. Still, I'm wondering what I should buy them next time. My sense of nostalgia tells me that I should buy them something at least…

Buying three year old kids tablets for Christmas is already a fuckup imo. They're not even able to have logical thoughts, don't feed them digital heroin already!

Re: Open-source apps removed from Google Play Store due to donation links

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I'm not a lawyer, but aren't sales and donations quite different? For instance donations tend to have negative taxes...

Not unless your entity is 503(c) tax-exempt which is explicitly allowed by Google. These “donations” are more like tips, which are treated as taxable income. I don’t see the problem here. The outrage in this thread seems more about people wanting a different set of rules for OSS and possibly avoiding income tax than anything else. If there are a different set of rules for OSS, then that just makes it easier to abuse…

Hmm, yeah, I guess that if we want patronage to become a viable economic model, then it will have to be taxed at some point... Since I mostly give to (AFAIK) tax-exempt entities, I didn't think of this...

But neither seems to have Google ! While the global license/patronage debates are already a decade old, and we have seen new companies get started and even established in this sector (Patreon). For instance this "donations" page only seems to cover non-profits ? https://www.google.com/nonprofits/offerings/google-donation-...

Re: Open-source apps removed from Google Play Store due to donation links

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WireGuard was reinstated after Jason has submitted a new version which does not contain a donation link. The issue has not been solved, and Google did not yet contact maintainers to clarify whether they would be allowed to have a donation link in WireGuard. Several other open source apps are still missing from Google Play, including andOTP. While WireGuard was bought back online, version 0.0.20191013 was briefly made…

An update on this: they have reinstated the app WITHOUT the link, and there has been no change in policy, according to insiders. Officially, Google has not communicated at all with us about it.

Re: Open-source apps removed from Google Play Store due to donation links

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WireGuard was reinstated after Jason has submitted a new version which does not contain a donation link. The issue has not been solved, and Google did not yet contact maintainers to clarify whether they would be allowed to have a donation link in WireGuard. Several other open source apps are still missing from Google Play, including andOTP. While WireGuard was bought back online, version 0.0.20191013 was briefly made…

But was it a version with the donation link removed?

The version with the donation link was up only for a short period, and then it was superseded by the new version. The currently published WireGuard version has NO donation link.

Re: Open-source apps removed from Google Play Store due to donation links

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Oruxmaps even had a donate version that went through proper Google channels when the free version was forcibly removed either for a donation link in the app that was incompletely removed from the Play store build variant or because of a donation link on the product website. It never came back, now the paid version on Play is effectively a billboard "you could save those dollars by going over to F-Droid where we are p…

This is good news for F-Droid. I just wish F-Droid had a better design but I guess that's just the nature of OSS. It always looked a bit shady and out-of-date, which probably hurts it's popularity.

Someone started a G-Droid project[1] with the goal of being a better local client for F-Droid. It's not a full replacement yet, but has many additional features and a better UI. Hope it takes off and perhaps gets integrated into the main client some day.

[1] https://gitlab.com/gdroid/gdroidclient/

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