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That's not really the same thing, it's a second shortcut for basically the same action. It's really not that good, it's far away from Tab and I don't ever remember that it exists. I remapped it to Option+Tab but it's not good either.
> it's far away from Tab Wait, it is not Alt+"key above tab" by default regardless of layout (like for example in gnome)?
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Wait until you discover some basic features of KDE or Gnome (especially the former) on Linux then. Using KDE, both MacOS and Windows 10 feel like it's 2009 all over again, by comparison. I just don't understand why MS and Apple don't steal the best stuff, it's literally 'free' as in beer, and so much more important to a good UX compared to the slew of useless features both these commercial vendors keep on piling up..…
For many of the things you list, you may want to have a look at https://github.com/koekeishiya/chunkwm
Just to piggyback on your interest:
My comments were more in the way of evangelizing Plasma (iirc KDE is the company, Plasma is their DE product), to share awesome features that I'd love to see generalized on all platforms.
In searching for a productive DE, provided you only want GUI config on the user side and can learn to juggle between 3-4 settings panels, Plasma beats them all.
Defaults are very close to Windows 10 (rather the other way around historically but whatever), with a touch of Linux twist here and there (magnet sides, feature-rich title bar menu, etc.)
The more advanced stuff is only necessary to maximize X (real estate, aesthetics, shortcut-driven controls...), some of it becomes invaluable over time.
I strongly encourage you to spend some time with KDE's Plasma, it's inspiring regarding the 'desktop paradigm' insofar as we just want to refine, not disrupt it (familiarity is a good thing for users imho).
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That's Apple for you. They should have abandoned the dumb one-menu-for-all-apps idea with the OS X transition, but nope. That would entail learning. Then again, they DID implement Command-Tab app switching from Windows... but managed to screw it up by not restoring the app from a minimized state when you switch to it.
All I read is "blah blah blah it's not exactly the same as Windows".
This entire thread exists because of people who want mac os to have a better window switching pattern.
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All I read is "blah blah blah it's not exactly the same as Windows".
I'm sorry, you think not wanting to hit a large number of extra keys to go different app => desired window, or to have to navigate a chaotic mission control view with a mouse is just a "not exactly the same as windows" complaint? This entire thread exists because of people who want mac os to have a better window switching pattern.
> but managed to screw it up by not restoring the app from a minimized state when you switch to it.
"Screw up" is interesting wording. The implication is that macOS has a fault in it because its window management is (a) app-based and (b) therefore doesn't automatically unminimise every window belonging to that app.
Imagine you had several windows minimised for a given app, switched to that app, and they all automatically swam back out of the Dock all in the name of emulating Windows.
Yeah, people might want a different window management system that isn't app-based, but that doesn't make the current system a "screw up" for not perfectly emulating other systems to which one may be more accustomed — namely Windows.
Just because people aren't familiar with it or don't see the benefits in it, nothing is "screwed up" because there isn't a slavish mimicry of the way Windows does things.
There are those of us, believe it or not, who understand the macOS way of doing things and vastly prefer it. Yeah, we might not have the most valuable input in this discussion, but that still doesn't mean the macOS way is a "screw up".
That's the point I'm making.
I have never enjoyed the distinction between apps, app windows, and in app windows. 25 years of alt+tab/Ctrl+tab/cmd+tab and I still can never switch to the thing I want. My mind is stuck on one hotkey that I want to mean "switch back to the last thing I was looking at" but that doesn't work because if the last thing was another app or another tab or window in the same program then I would need a different key. My br…
The thing that really gets my goat is the behavior with apps spread across multiple workspaces. Alt-tabbing on one workspace does not stay on that workspace but may switch to another app's window on another workspace. End of the day, I just use my MBP for Word (oh how the tides have turned) and VPN.
I wrote a small thing to help me manage creation and navigation of named i3 workspaces using dmenu (and I love it) but the first improvement I made was to add the ability to flip between the two most recently used workspaces and bind it to Alt-Tab. This immediately drove me up a wall by jumping to workspaces on different outputs (laptop screen, external monitor, etc) which was correct but remarkably disorienting. The next improvement was to make toggling only consider workspaces currently on the focused output. [0] I'm quite happy with the result (though there are still some bugs involving tracking workspace age while shifting them around between outputs).
There is a further improvement I'd love to add but don't know how - I want the Windows Alt-Tab behavior where Alt-Tab enters a "switching mode" and then as long as Alt is held down, repeated tapping of Tab fires an action (in this case, cycling focus to older and older targets). I haven't been able to find a key binding program or recipe that supports this kind of interaction (I'm currently using sxhkd).
0: https://github.com/mosbasik/fluidspaces-rs/blob/dev/src/bin/...
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I love your app, but unfortunately Control+Tab is the same shortcut used system-wide to move between tabs. Could you add the ability to choose a custom shortcut?
+1 for this. Now my browser experience is broken. Or is there a way to remap tab switching shortcut in firefox? Seems silly to do that though. Actually, alt+tab seems to do nothing on my macOS. Why not use that? I'd actually have the same shortcuts as on windows, which I also use. I'd also love to adjust the delay. Seems very slow now. Otherwise, this is beautiful.
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Thanks, that is a great explanation! I will give it a try and see if it improves my life at work.
There is in fact a way to 'un-minimize' a window [0]: Use cmd+tab to go to the application, while still holding cmd press alt, and release cmd. It helped me out a couple of times when I accidentally minimized a window. [0] https://discussions.apple.com/thread/1615114