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Public schools are a cancer. They are worse for your intellectual development than just being left alone. They actually damage your mind by suffocating you of free thought and experimentation. And in the name of doing this, they pile on the stress and expose you to viscous bullies. The kids run these schools now, they are closer to day-care centers or zoos than schools. The teachers just watch idly while their studen…
I think you need some therapy dude.
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The youngest at 6 has Chess 3 times a week and soccer 3 times a week. The oldest has soccer 3 times a week and is not home until 7 in the evening. They also have homework. So they have plenty of obligations we are just very strict with when they go to bed which means that in general we don't have an issue with getting them to sleep.
How do you handle the family logistics that facilitate going to bed by 8pm?
Putting the kids to sleep at 8 doesn't mean going to bed at 8pm myself.
Again we keep a strict schedule. Dinner at 6, bedtime reading at 7.30, light out at 8.00.
Weekends we are a little less strict yet they normally wake up at 6 anyway because they are used to it.
All it requires is the same kind of prioritization and effort we put into so many other things we care about.
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> If you have all 3 classes of students going to school at the same time, your bus costs are going to be 3 times as high. It doesn't matter if it's public or private, that's just how it works. In Australia, it is also normal that all 3 classes of students also start at around the same time. (8:45-9:00am). This doesn't seem to be a problem that the public transit system seems incapable of handling.
What is a public transit system? What a quaint idea. Seriously though, public transit is such a joke in most parts of the USA (especially the rural areas) that this is basically a non-starter. I live in a part of the country that does have a pretty good public transit system, I just checked on taking public transit from my neighborhood to my son's high school and discovered that it's not possible. There is no public…
The way it works in Australia (at least in the parts of Australia I've lived in, obviously can't speak for the whole country) – as well as the scheduled route bus services scheduled for general transport needs, we have special school bus services dedicated[1] to taking kids to/from school. But, the school bus services and the route bus services are run by the same bus company, using the same pool of buses and drivers. So, even if there is no regular bus route going near a school, doesn't mean they can't run a school service to/from it.
In other words, if a public transit system provides ordinary bus routes, why can't the same public transit system (using same buses and drivers) provide special school services?
[1] Strictly speaking, at least in NSW, they aren't completely dedicated to school kids, since in theory any adult can buy a fare on them–but, in practice, very few adults ever do that.
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>But sure keep on claiming I am the one who is making anecdotal claims You are. This doesn't mean they are for sure wrong, but you are looking at the success of one school system and saying that means that the start time does not matter. For all you know, that school system could change to starting at 8:30 and rank even higher. It is a textbook anecdotal claim. >The study you refer to compares 2, TWO schools and does…
I am comparing +2400 schools in New York state with each other based on the stats I told you and with Success Academy both being the earliest and dominating the top of that list (two thirds of the top 1.8% of the school. And that's with a majority of the children being black and Hispanic and from less financially well of homes. It's not just one school system it's various school systems Charter school vs. elementary…
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How do you handle the family logistics that facilitate going to bed by 8pm?
Just don't break the chain. Kids are all about consistency in my experience. Putting the kids to sleep at 8 doesn't mean going to bed at 8pm myself. Again we keep a strict schedule. Dinner at 6, bedtime reading at 7.30, light out at 8.00. Weekends we are a little less strict yet they normally wake up at 6 anyway because they are used to it. All it requires is the same kind of prioritization and effort we put into so…
The "early wakeup time makes people groggy" story always looked puzzling to me. I mean, when DST kicks in everyone adjusts in day or two. What prevents one from setting up their own personal DST and getting up earlier still? Certainly not biology.
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There’s a 20:1 to 30:1 ratio so are you suggesting it’s better for 20-30 working, single parent families? Maybe the government should pay teachers more and pay less on defense and we’d have a more productive society.
I've read multiple studies that the biggest influence in a kids success in school is their parents involvement. Don't make the assumption that throwing more money at teachers will improve our schools. Zuckerberg tried that with little success, as have many before him. I'd rather a focus on ensuring every kid has a healthy meal at the table. A support group who's invested in tbe individual kids success. A family that…
Oddly, parents ability to work is actually beneficial towards kids ability to eat regularly and healthy. Especially for poor famillies.
I didn't even realize schools started before 8... I believe that's when my high school started. Thinking back to the useless slug that I was in the mornings as a teenager, I can't imagine this will do anything but help learning. If only there had been a law saying college classes couldn't start before 11am (or 2pm on Fridays) when I was there...
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I don't think that is the implied assumption; the stated reason for this change, FTA: > The American Academy of Pediatrics, which backed the bill, said in 2014 policy statement that getting too little sleep puts teenagers’ physical and mental health at risk, as well as their academic performance. The organization cited research that shows that biological changes in puberty make it difficult for the average teenager t…
Did they give a cause as to why it's hard for them to sleep before 11pm? That doesn't contradict what I said in the slightest.
I didn't follow the citation, but that would be my suggestion for the first place to look if you want to understand their theory better.