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Show HN: Pipedream. Develop any workflow, on any trigger, with auth and no infra

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Re: Show HN: Pipedream. Develop any workflow, on any trigger, with auth and no infra

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The usual question, how they monetize the service? It's answered here[1], along with limitations[2]: - 100kb max body-size. - Rate-limit at 10 requests per second - 10 seconds per execution for HTTP triggers, and 30 seconds for cron triggers - 192 MB of memory for your code and libraries during workflow execution - 512 MB of disk in the /tmp directory. [1] https://docs.pipedream.com/pricing/ [2] https://docs.pipedrea…

This isn't an answer to how they might monetize this service and quite frankly I've seen the OP/Co-Founder post their "answer" to this question on multiple other comments and it's extremely hand-wavy. I currently have little to no faith that this product isn't going to leave anyone that uses it stranded in a year or so when they have to shutdown due to lack of revenue.

I really don't like it when new services leave out the pricing and hide it under "contact us".

Testing and trying something new requires time and effort, which is limited, especially for companies that would be interested, if pricing/future isn't crystal clear, why make the effort?

Re: Show HN: Pipedream. Develop any workflow, on any trigger, with auth and no infra

#32
post #24

The usual question, how they monetize the service? It's answered here[1], along with limitations[2]: - 100kb max body-size. - Rate-limit at 10 requests per second - 10 seconds per execution for HTTP triggers, and 30 seconds for cron triggers - 192 MB of memory for your code and libraries during workflow execution - 512 MB of disk in the /tmp directory. [1] https://docs.pipedream.com/pricing/ [2] https://docs.pipedrea…

This isn't an answer to how they might monetize this service and quite frankly I've seen the OP/Co-Founder post their "answer" to this question on multiple other comments and it's extremely hand-wavy. I currently have little to no faith that this product isn't going to leave anyone that uses it stranded in a year or so when they have to shutdown due to lack of revenue.

Haggy - we have no plans to charge individual developers for low volume workflows that fit within our defined constraints. Our revenue efforts will be focused on enterprise use cases.

I have no desire to be hand-savvy so please ask whatever questions you have and I will do my best to clarify.

Re: Show HN: Pipedream. Develop any workflow, on any trigger, with auth and no infra

#33
post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This isn't an answer to how they might monetize this service and quite frankly I've seen the OP/Co-Founder post their "answer" to this question on multiple other comments and it's extremely hand-wavy. I currently have little to no faith that this product isn't going to leave anyone that uses it stranded in a year or so when they have to shutdown due to lack of revenue.

I really don't like it when new services leave out the pricing and hide it under "contact us". Testing and trying something new requires time and effort, which is limited, especially for companies that would be interested, if pricing/future isn't crystal clear, why make the effort?

Pricing is on our home page, above the fold. It says “free.”

Re: Show HN: Pipedream. Develop any workflow, on any trigger, with auth and no infra

#34
post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I really don't like it when new services leave out the pricing and hide it under "contact us". Testing and trying something new requires time and effort, which is limited, especially for companies that would be interested, if pricing/future isn't crystal clear, why make the effort?

Pricing is on our home page, above the fold. It says “free.”

You need to address the cost of scalability, free isn't a price and there's clearly a price somewhere along the line.

Re: Show HN: Pipedream. Develop any workflow, on any trigger, with auth and no infra

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So basically, people are going to build on top of your service and if yall don't figure out a revenue model, you'll need to close down shop, leaving people scrambling to migrate somewhere else... No thanks, I've been there before. You'd be better off just charging from the get-go. Otherwise, this should be 100% open source.

From your past experience, do you have anything constructive to tell this new team on how they can attempt to build a business without knowing the future that would make you more comfortable using it? I ask because I see a lot of these dismissive comments on HN which end with "open source it" - and that doesn't seem like a super constructive piece of advice to a new startup team. FWIW, at my current company, an analy…

I think the point is: monitize now to reduce risk

Re: Show HN: Pipedream. Develop any workflow, on any trigger, with auth and no infra

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post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From your past experience, do you have anything constructive to tell this new team on how they can attempt to build a business without knowing the future that would make you more comfortable using it? I ask because I see a lot of these dismissive comments on HN which end with "open source it" - and that doesn't seem like a super constructive piece of advice to a new startup team. FWIW, at my current company, an analy…

I think the point is: monitize now to reduce risk

People are often a lot more upset when they pay money and there is no exit plan. Shut downs can be abrupt and chaotic, suggesting they monetize immediately doesn't seem helpful either. If that's the suggestion, I'd ask: how much would you pay and how long do you expect notification in advance of a shut down? Do you expect a refund? Full or partial? Do you expect portability? If so, what kind.

Re: Show HN: Pipedream. Develop any workflow, on any trigger, with auth and no infra

#38
post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pricing is on our home page, above the fold. It says “free.”

You need to address the cost of scalability, free isn't a price and there's clearly a price somewhere along the line.

If you do not need enterprise use cases (single sign-on, higher level SLAs, shared authentication, etc) and your scale fits within our defined constraints, then free is the price.

Re: Show HN: Pipedream. Develop any workflow, on any trigger, with auth and no infra

#39
post #12

It looks like an interesting alternative to Zapier (or its open source counterpart n8n [1]). As a potential user, before even trying the tool I'd like to know how are you planning to monetize it. Free sounds awesome, but you'll get to a point where it costs you actual money to keep all this working. I don't want to waste my time creating pipelines in a tool that won't exist in a year or two -or that will become paid…

> or its open source counterpart n8n

Unfortunately, n8n is not[1] Open Source, despite claiming to be "Open Source and so free" on their website[2].

1: https://github.com/n8n-io/n8n/blob/master/LICENSE.md

2: https://n8n.io/

Re: Show HN: Pipedream. Develop any workflow, on any trigger, with auth and no infra

#40
post #2

Co-founder here. We have been heads down working Pipedream for the past 9 months and are excited to share our beta with you. Pipedream is an integration platform built for developers. Develop any workflow, based on any trigger with authentication management built-in and no server or cloud resources to manage. Workflows are code, which you can run for free. The beta version includes the ability to: - Run any Node code…

FYI, your docs don’t display properly in Safari on iPadOS; the content is hidden behind the navigation, which doesn’t seem to be collapsible. Here’s a screenshot to show what I mean: https://imgur.com/a/d0SjEVt Reader view exposes the content fine, so that’s a valid workaround for now.

Thanks! Just rolled out a fix for this. Would you mind taking a look again?
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