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If you don't want to be rehabilitated, you will not be rehabilitated.
You have to at least try before coming to that conclusion.
Boise is why L.A. can’t legally clear its streets of homeless encampments
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Re: Boise is why L.A. can’t legally clear its streets of homeless encampments
#52The article says 1,000 - 2,000 homeless in Boise, but at 2,000, a little quick MATH shows that Boise's homelessness rate may be a tad higher than LA's: Boise: 2,000 homeless in population of 227,000 = 1:113 LA: 36,000 homeless in population of 4,000,000 = 1:111 Given the difference in annual weather, it's not clear that Boise policy is effective in reducing homelessness.
They might winter in Portland or even LA.
Spokane is another city in that area with a huge homeless problem, and perhaps even harsher weather (Boise is at least high desert). Though housing can be super cheap, my granddad used to run what we thought became basically a flop house that we nicked named the Empty Arms.
SLC seems to have focused more on housing the homeless, but even then I think in recent years they’ve found that their success has mainly just led to a larger problem.
Re: Boise is why L.A. can’t legally clear its streets of homeless encampments
#53One thing that I have never understood about this discussion is why it always seems to avoid the following question: What about people who want to be homeless? Why have we built a society in which anybody who doesn't accept the lifestyle of sleeping in a static, hardened structure, and working to pay rent or a mortgage so as to have the right to do so, is diagnosed with some kind of illness? Isn't it quite clear that…
I think you overestimate the number of homeless by choice vs homeless by circumstance. You also are sort of marginalizing the homeless who need help by painting them as happily homeless. Very naive take on the situation.
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#54It's an exhausting problem. I live in Portland, which is just another west coast city having increasing trouble with a rising homeless population. On one hand yes, they're people and they deserve help and support and appropriate housing and access to rehab and structure. But on the other hand, if you buy a house in Portland there's very little you can do to prevent your front sidewalk from getting turned into a homel…
Re: Boise is why L.A. can’t legally clear its streets of homeless encampments
#55Brutal article. They're trying to conduct a violent purge/exile of homeless while dressing it up as caring about them. Give them houses wtf
This is not as much a housing issue as it is a mental health and substance abuse issue. See https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2019-10-07/homeless...
Re: Boise is why L.A. can’t legally clear its streets of homeless encampments
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And women and children being able to walk the streets without being harassed is another -- as you might write "(perceived)" -- incentive.
Unless, of course, those women and children are homeless.
Re: Boise is why L.A. can’t legally clear its streets of homeless encampments
#57It's an exhausting problem. I live in Portland, which is just another west coast city having increasing trouble with a rising homeless population. On one hand yes, they're people and they deserve help and support and appropriate housing and access to rehab and structure. But on the other hand, if you buy a house in Portland there's very little you can do to prevent your front sidewalk from getting turned into a homel…
I have heard the hundreds of dirty needles sentiment from people but have never encountered a neighborhood in LA where there are hundreds of dirty needles on the ground. Is there any photos of this phenomenon online you could point me to or is this mostly hyperbole?
Re: Boise is why L.A. can’t legally clear its streets of homeless encampments
#58One thing that I have never understood about this discussion is why it always seems to avoid the following question: What about people who want to be homeless? Why have we built a society in which anybody who doesn't accept the lifestyle of sleeping in a static, hardened structure, and working to pay rent or a mortgage so as to have the right to do so, is diagnosed with some kind of illness? Isn't it quite clear that…
Because people like you are incredibly uncommon. I do not believe at all that there are millions of people like that in the US.
Re: Boise is why L.A. can’t legally clear its streets of homeless encampments
#59In the article, Boise is challenging a court ruling that cities cannot ticket or arrest the homeless if there are no shelter beds available. This begs the question how ticketing/arresting clears the streets? By shoving them elsewhere for another city to ticket? Or housing them in jail (at a much higher expense)? Later in the article it does mention that LA (correction from Boise) is also voiding millions of citations…
Re: Boise is why L.A. can’t legally clear its streets of homeless encampments
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Tell doctors to stop prescribing heroine.
And the military to stop destroying young men and then sending them out onto the streets with no useful support.
In fact in seattle, King County, sued PURDUE PHARMA, L.P.; PURDUE PHARMA, INC.; THE PURDUE FREDERICK COMPANY, INC.; ENDO HEALTH SOLUTIONS INC.; ENDO PHARMACEUTICALS, INC.; JANSSEN PHARMACEUTICALS, INC.; JOHNSON & JOHNSON; SEATTLE PAIN CENTER MEDICAL CORPORATION d/b/a SEATTLE PAIN CENTER; FRANK D. LI; SALES REPRESENTATIVES JOHN.
This is where it starts, as much as it would be great to turn this into a debate about the US military these pharmaceutical companies and Holy Prestigious Doctors are far and away the major cause of these issues.