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Boise is why L.A. can’t legally clear its streets of homeless encampments

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Re: Boise is why L.A. can’t legally clear its streets of homeless encampments

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To save you a click, the "City in Idaho", which is clearly written to make it sound like a village of like 10 people in the middle of nowhere, is Boise.

Don’t feel so bad, the article is also sounds like it was written by someone who has never been to LA. Skid Row overflowed into Little Tokyo several years ago, creating a new ad hoc neighborhood name “Skid Rokyo”.

Oh and the there’s the giant homeless encampments every 1-3 miles as you drive around LA.

Re: Boise is why L.A. can’t legally clear its streets of homeless encampments

#12

L.A. is a place that respects the value of a creative solution. If one cannot force the homeless to leave, how does one positively incentivize people to stop living in the street?

'Just give them housing' seems to work pretty well. https://nationswell.com/one-state-track-become-first-end-hom...

Re: Boise is why L.A. can’t legally clear its streets of homeless encampments

#13

L.A. is a place that respects the value of a creative solution. If one cannot force the homeless to leave, how does one positively incentivize people to stop living in the street?

Does one really need to be incentivized to stop living on the street? I would think the incentives are obvious. The problem is the means.

Re: Boise is why L.A. can’t legally clear its streets of homeless encampments

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L.A. is a place that respects the value of a creative solution. If one cannot force the homeless to leave, how does one positively incentivize people to stop living in the street?

Maybe.... give them a place to stay...

OFF the street?

Of course all urban centers are so starved of entry level housing that anything good enough to minimally get a homeless person off the street (bathroom, place to sleep, maybe kitchenette) would also be swamped by everyone from the poor and working, college students, immigrants, etc.

Suppressing this housing is all done in the name of maintaining and increasing housing values for the affluent. If you increase the supply of housing, the value of housing drops, and white people don't want that.

Re: Boise is why L.A. can’t legally clear its streets of homeless encampments

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

And women and children being able to walk the streets without being harassed is another -- as you might write "(perceived)" -- incentive.

Unless, of course, those women and children are homeless.

Nearly all homeless are adult men.

Re: Boise is why L.A. can’t legally clear its streets of homeless encampments

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In the article, Boise is challenging a court ruling that cities cannot ticket or arrest the homeless if there are no shelter beds available. This begs the question how ticketing/arresting clears the streets? By shoving them elsewhere for another city to ticket? Or housing them in jail (at a much higher expense)? Later in the article it does mention that LA (correction from Boise) is also voiding millions of citations…

I think that is an error in the article. I live in Boise. The law allows ticketing if there IS room in shelters. People would not be ticketed if the shelters are full. Not saying it's a good law. But the article is wrong. Edit: Here is the relevant section of the actual code. > Enforcement: Law enforcement officers shall not enforce this camping section when the individual is on public property and there is no availa…

The article says that.

Boise Mayor David Bieter is attempting to challenge a landmark federal court ruling that prohibits cities from ticketing or arresting homeless people for sleeping or camping on public property if there are no shelter beds available as an alternative.

Re: Boise is why L.A. can’t legally clear its streets of homeless encampments

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L.A. is a place that respects the value of a creative solution. If one cannot force the homeless to leave, how does one positively incentivize people to stop living in the street?

'Just give them housing' seems to work pretty well. https://nationswell.com/one-state-track-become-first-end-hom...

IIRC that actually hasn't worked too well for Utah in recent years.
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